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Instruction manuals: (C/O BentKa)

Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

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here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe) or add 1.5mm carbon avid spacers



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

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Old 01-23-2024, 06:43 PM
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Actually 4 dayd ago when I posted that Amain had them.
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Check absolutehobbyz.com, they had in stock last I checked
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Just ordered the dirt edition from Amain today. Looking for the 0deg aluminum bulkhead 322316 when it comes in. Its kinda spendy, hopefully RDesigns will make one soon. Other aluminum parts should transfer over.
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Those that have the xb2 24D. I hear everyone is loving the car. I race on a medium sized indoor clay sealed track. So far I've been underwhelmed by the car. My 2022 car seems better. Run 17.5. Geared 75-30. Car seems slow. My biggest issue is the handling. Car lacks rear grip and just doesn't turn well. I'm using a mix on Tom R setups. Now I also have a schumacher Ld3. That car is pretty Damm good, turns on a dime, out accelerates my xb2 and oddly enough has more grip. This is using the exact same electronics and tires as my xb2. But it just doesn't have the durability and finish as the xb2. I've broken few parts on it. So I want my xb2 to drive like my ld3. Any suggestions
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Originally Posted by tony montana
Those that have the xb2 24D. I hear everyone is loving the car. I race on a medium sized indoor clay sealed track. So far I've been underwhelmed by the car. My 2022 car seems better. Run 17.5. Geared 75-30. Car seems slow. My biggest issue is the handling. Car lacks rear grip and just doesn't turn well. I'm using a mix on Tom R setups. Now I also have a schumacher Ld3. That car is pretty Damm good, turns on a dime, out accelerates my xb2 and oddly enough has more grip. This is using the exact same electronics and tires as my xb2. But it just doesn't have the durability and finish as the xb2. I've broken few parts on it. So I want my xb2 to drive like my ld3. Any suggestions
Take the rear waterfall brace off, it will increase rear grip dramatically!
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Originally Posted by tony montana
Those that have the xb2 24D. I hear everyone is loving the car. I race on a medium sized indoor clay sealed track. So far I've been underwhelmed by the car. My 2022 car seems better. Run 17.5. Geared 75-30. Car seems slow. My biggest issue is the handling. Car lacks rear grip and just doesn't turn well. I'm using a mix on Tom R setups. Now I also have a schumacher Ld3. That car is pretty Damm good, turns on a dime, out accelerates my xb2 and oddly enough has more grip. This is using the exact same electronics and tires as my xb2. But it just doesn't have the durability and finish as the xb2. I've broken few parts on it. So I want my xb2 to drive like my ld3. Any suggestions
I run the 2024 XB2c at Hoosier, a high bite sealed clay track. Car generates a ton of grip and way more steering than anyone would need. What part of the corner are you having issues with grip?
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Default Associated b7.3 ball diff in xb2 23"

Does anyone know if the b6.3 ball diff fits in a xb2?
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Originally Posted by ThinkLAB
Does anyone know if the b6.3 ball diff fits in a xb2?
I'm running the B6.1 Factory Light aluminum puck system diff in my XB2 24'. The only thing you have to do is build the AE diff with the Xray diff gear because of the tooth count (it's a direct fit in the AE diff).
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Originally Posted by rraden
I'm running the B6.1 Factory Light aluminum puck system diff in my XB2 24'. The only thing you have to do is build the AE diff with the Xray diff gear because of the tooth count (it's a direct fit in the AE diff).
Interesting idea.
This kit? ASC91844
With the remaining diff parts from Xray?
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Originally Posted by Pinebox
Interesting idea.
This kit? ASC91844
With the remaining diff parts from Xray?
Yes, that kit.
I used all AE parts to build the diff except for the Xray diff gear. I didn't try using the Xray internals but now that you ask when I rebuild it I might try using them. You can't use the AE dog bones because they are too short. I drilled out and filed down the Xray bones to the same dimensions as the AE bones to fit the pucks. A little bit of work but the weight savings was worth it.
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Originally Posted by tony montana
Those that have the xb2 24D. I hear everyone is loving the car. I race on a medium sized indoor clay sealed track. So far I've been underwhelmed by the car. My 2022 car seems better. Run 17.5. Geared 75-30. Car seems slow. My biggest issue is the handling. Car lacks rear grip and just doesn't turn well. I'm using a mix on Tom R setups. Now I also have a schumacher Ld3. That car is pretty Damm good, turns on a dime, out accelerates my xb2 and oddly enough has more grip. This is using the exact same electronics and tires as my xb2. But it just doesn't have the durability and finish as the xb2. I've broken few parts on it. So I want my xb2 to drive like my ld3. Any suggestions
use the shorter rear arms it will make the xar turn way better.
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Those that have the xb2 24D. I hear everyone is loving the car. I race on a medium sized indoor clay sealed track. So far I've been underwhelmed by the car. My 2022 car seems better. Run 17.5. Geared 75-30. Car seems slow. My biggest issue is the handling. Car lacks rear grip and just doesn't turn well. I'm using a mix on Tom R setups. Now I also have a schumacher Ld3. That car is pretty Damm good, turns on a dime, out accelerates my xb2 and oddly enough has more grip. This is using the exact same electronics and tires as my xb2. But it just doesn't have the durability and finish as the xb2. I've broken few parts on it. So I want my xb2 to drive like my ld3. Any suggestions

Hi

Could you post your setup sheet for XB2 and LD3, maybe we can see something you have missed and suggest some changes.

I have heard that the older XB2'21-23 platform is slighter better in lower grip conditions but most things can be made to work ok

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Would anyone be able to measure the distance between screw holes on the XB2 2024 kit's wing mounts please? Hoping it's 29mm center to center for the wing button screws..

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Originally Posted by tony montana
Those that have the xb2 24D. I hear everyone is loving the car. I race on a medium sized indoor clay sealed track. So far I've been underwhelmed by the car. My 2022 car seems better. Run 17.5. Geared 75-30. Car seems slow. My biggest issue is the handling. Car lacks rear grip and just doesn't turn well. I'm using a mix on Tom R setups. Now I also have a schumacher Ld3. That car is pretty Damm good, turns on a dime, out accelerates my xb2 and oddly enough has more grip. This is using the exact same electronics and tires as my xb2. But it just doesn't have the durability and finish as the xb2. I've broken few parts on it. So I want my xb2 to drive like my ld3. Any suggestions
i drove mine at TRCR in Tacoma Washington. High grip indoor clay track. Used Tom Rendernecht Omaha starting setup and with a spring change from ae grey to blue, and the car was money. Immediately comfortable and was on pace to make the a main in 2 battery packs. Car is really really good. I should also mention the mugen MSB1.was also very vey good as well. Much better then the tlr it copied.

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