Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road
Xray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread >

Xray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree333Likes

Xray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread

    Hide Wikipost
Old 05-04-2019, 06:44 PM   -   Wikipost
R/C Tech ForumsThread Wiki: Xray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been a member for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: dgrobe2112
Instruction manuals: (C/O BentKa)

Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

edit by dgrobe2112
here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe) or add 1.5mm carbon avid spacers



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

Print Wikipost

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-22-2017, 05:22 AM
  #4966  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
jt409's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Central Point, Oregon
Posts: 290
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

What if any upgrades you guys recomend for this car. Its amazing as is i run turf/carpet higher traction. Fast to tight technical tracks with average sized jumps.
jt409 is offline  
Old 07-22-2017, 10:51 AM
  #4967  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (30)
 
nikos2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: any where I can race!
Posts: 5,045
Trader Rating: 30 (100%+)
Default

FYI - http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...017-parts.html
nikos2002 is offline  
Old 07-22-2017, 10:59 PM
  #4968  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
HollywoodRC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 461
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Bman's 3XNT
Any news on narrow (slim) front rims? Would be nice....
I picked up a set of Associated slims at the track this week. They work great for the 2WD carpet/turf tires.

Last edited by HollywoodRC; 07-23-2017 at 11:42 AM.
HollywoodRC is offline  
Old 07-22-2017, 11:04 PM
  #4969  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
HollywoodRC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 461
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Our track just converted from clay to turf, with carpet jumps. Anyone have a carpet/turf base setup. I ran both of my buggies (XB2, XB4) and was struggling with setup. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
HollywoodRC is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 04:27 AM
  #4970  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (259)
 
rraden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Brighton, MI
Posts: 5,450
Trader Rating: 259 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by HollywoodRC
Our track just converted from clay to turf, with carpet jumps. Anyone have a carpet/turf base setup. I ran both of my buggies (XB2, XB4) and was struggling with setup. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Look here for carpet setups:

Team Xray XB2 Setup Sheets
rraden is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 09:29 AM
  #4971  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (76)
 
tony montana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Leonardtown Md.
Posts: 6,409
Trader Rating: 76 (100%+)
Default

For those struggling with rear grip, first step should be all medium parts, second I wanna test the 2017 dirt car chassis on the laydown car. I did however run the 2017 dirt car yesterday and was pretty pleased with its performance, had very good grip and good corner speed right out the box. I'd be willing to bet the 2018 carpet car will have the dirt cars chassis on it.
tony montana is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 10:33 AM
  #4972  
JAE
Tech Master
iTrader: (30)
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,974
Trader Rating: 30 (100%+)
Default

What is different about the dirt chassis? Thx

Originally Posted by tony montana
For those struggling with rear grip, first step should be all medium parts, second I wanna test the 2017 dirt car chassis on the laydown car. I did however run the 2017 dirt car yesterday and was pretty pleased with its performance, had very good grip and good corner speed right out the box. I'd be willing to bet the 2018 carpet car will have the dirt cars chassis on it.
JAE is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 11:29 AM
  #4973  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sweden
Posts: 127
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by JAE
What is different about the dirt chassis? Thx
The biggest difference is that it has a lot of milled pockets all over the chassis to increase flex.
It also has some material removed to create more clearance for the rear arms when using the narrow hinge pin holders, and it has more servo mounting holes up front to be able to move the servo more rearwards if wanted.
GregerL is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 11:53 AM
  #4974  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
HollywoodRC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 461
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by rraden
Look here for carpet setups:

Team Xray XB2 Setup Sheets
Thanks rraden, that was a huge help.
HollywoodRC is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 12:09 PM
  #4975  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (24)
 
compRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Wherever the kids are ...
Posts: 219
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

Does '17 dirt chassis work on the 17' CE?
compRacer is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 12:11 PM
  #4976  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sweden
Posts: 127
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by compRacer
Does '17 dirt chassis work on the 17' CE?
Yes it does.

Last edited by GregerL; 07-24-2017 at 12:26 PM.
GregerL is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 05:33 PM
  #4977  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (76)
 
tony montana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Leonardtown Md.
Posts: 6,409
Trader Rating: 76 (100%+)
Default

I think the 17 dirt car chassis will become the standard in laydown and stand up for anyone racing in dirt. I'm actually just gonna switch over my 3 gear laydown tranny and shock tower right to my 17 dirt car, that way I have all medium parts. Even gonna try the dirt car front shock tower.
tony montana is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 05:59 PM
  #4978  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
kbish76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LV NV
Posts: 361
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Has anyone figured out how to stop the car from lifting its outer rear wheel in tight turns? Would this be fixed by either a chassis stiffener or a front sway bar? Or do I just need to change completely change my set up on high grip carpet?
kbish76 is offline  
Old 07-25-2017, 07:16 AM
  #4979  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Pville Stig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 401
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by kbish76
Has anyone figured out how to stop the car from lifting its outer rear wheel in tight turns? Would this be fixed by either a chassis stiffener or a front sway bar? Or do I just need to change completely change my set up on high grip carpet?
Sounds like a setup issue. Not allowing the car to transfer weight to the outside enough. Have you tried using any of the xray team setups?
Pville Stig is offline  
Old 07-26-2017, 08:01 AM
  #4980  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (33)
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 2,384
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by kbish76
Has anyone figured out how to stop the car from lifting its outer rear wheel in tight turns? Would this be fixed by either a chassis stiffener or a front sway bar? Or do I just need to change completely change my set up on high grip carpet?
your outer rear wheel lifts? seems impossible to me..
dgrobe2112 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.