333LikesXray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread
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12-07-2016, 09:26 AM
#4156
i found the alum steering plate to be a little more consistent and precise with steering - it took away some of the soft steering feel and made it more aggressive. i think the performance is good but im just wondering if anyone thinks it's an issue for stripping servos. also if anyone thinks the plate in alum with plastic steering arms is the way to go like i do?
has anyone ever broke the plastic steering plate? I've broke the composite roll center holders and since have switched to alum. but im still not sure which steering rack parts to run.
we were talking about the steering rack though, not the outer blocks. but thanks for your info.
has anyone ever broke the plastic steering plate? I've broke the composite roll center holders and since have switched to alum. but im still not sure which steering rack parts to run.
we were talking about the steering rack though, not the outer blocks. but thanks for your info.
As for the steering rack, I would consider replacing the steering plate with the alum option, but as you said it tightens things up and can make steering twitchy. I am going with the Hudy alum servo horn, but thats a personal preference. As for stripping servos, I don't think this will be an issue in dirt off-road. Although it could be an issue when running carpet off-road. I haven't run much carpet off-road, but I've run for over a decade without a servo saver on dirt off-road and not stripped a single servo.
12-07-2016, 11:29 AM
#4157
what is your driving experience? what cars and motors? are you talented like mid to front of pack of a mains on club/trophy races?
i'd say if you run mod in your other classes and you're comfortable with that and you have experience with other 2wd mod cars - go mod. stock will just make your mod cars feel extremely fast and it can kind of mess with you.
if you don't have much experience and run stock with other classes or previously just run stock. 2wd buggy in mod is hard to control and stock can teach you how to drive well and it inspires confidence you can always move up to mod down the road.
i'd say if you run mod in your other classes and you're comfortable with that and you have experience with other 2wd mod cars - go mod. stock will just make your mod cars feel extremely fast and it can kind of mess with you.
if you don't have much experience and run stock with other classes or previously just run stock. 2wd buggy in mod is hard to control and stock can teach you how to drive well and it inspires confidence you can always move up to mod down the road.
I've always had the fastest of the fast, so I hear what you're saying. I'll have to make a decision soon. I may pick something up tonight.
I'm currently looking over the car and trying to figure out hudy oil vs associated and losi types. I don't want to get raped on the hudy accessories.
I notice my shock eyelets have some play, the rest of the car is as snug and tight as could be without binding. Are your xray cars the same?
Btw, thanks for the advice.
12-07-2016, 11:33 AM
#4158
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
Historically just a basher with some small weekend track build meet-ups. No real track experience other than running some practice recently with one of my monster trucks.
I've always had the fastest of the fast, so I hear what you're saying. I'll have to make a decision soon. I may pick something up tonight.
I'm currently looking over the car and trying to figure out hudy oil vs associated and losi types. I don't want to get raped on the hudy accessories.
I notice my shock eyelets have some play, the rest of the car is as snug and tight as could be without binding. Are your xray cars the same?
Btw, thanks for the advice.
I've always had the fastest of the fast, so I hear what you're saying. I'll have to make a decision soon. I may pick something up tonight.
I'm currently looking over the car and trying to figure out hudy oil vs associated and losi types. I don't want to get raped on the hudy accessories.
I notice my shock eyelets have some play, the rest of the car is as snug and tight as could be without binding. Are your xray cars the same?
Btw, thanks for the advice.
i would also opt for the hudy oils. AE and Losi oils go by weight and weight is arbitrary, it differes from company to company. the way hudy measures viscosity is by CST like it should be, a real linear measurement. this means it's easier deciding what to use because you understand the values. plus many xray setups are done in cst. plus hudy oils are amazing. they last a long time and they just feel super smooth. smoother than any other oil i have tried. once you get stocked up it's not too expensive. just costs a bit more up front, but once you have a bunch of oils replacing 1 bottle every few months is nothing. xray is like that in general. at first theyre expensive but then once youve had them for a long time you barely ever have to replace parts and you have a stock of extras anyway.
12-07-2016, 12:27 PM
#4161
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
Yeah, my comment was a general overview of my car last weekend. Super impressed with the XB2 '17 CE and winning the first weekend out with it was a nice bonus.
As for the steering rack, I would consider replacing the steering plate with the alum option, but as you said it tightens things up and can make steering twitchy. I am going with the Hudy alum servo horn, but thats a personal preference. As for stripping servos, I don't think this will be an issue in dirt off-road. Although it could be an issue when running carpet off-road. I haven't run much carpet off-road, but I've run for over a decade without a servo saver on dirt off-road and not stripped a single servo.
As for the steering rack, I would consider replacing the steering plate with the alum option, but as you said it tightens things up and can make steering twitchy. I am going with the Hudy alum servo horn, but thats a personal preference. As for stripping servos, I don't think this will be an issue in dirt off-road. Although it could be an issue when running carpet off-road. I haven't run much carpet off-road, but I've run for over a decade without a servo saver on dirt off-road and not stripped a single servo.
idk why ppl replace the composite steering arms with alum - the steering arms seem incredibly beefy, but light. i think those are awesome. but the plate def seems a bit more soft and makes more sense to replace. just not sure if it would be better or worse than the stock composite for med-high bite clay tracks.
12-07-2016, 01:16 PM
#4163
i would go with a high quality stock motor (one of the brands i listed above) - racing and bashing is totally different and stock motor in a 2wd buggy isnt a slouch it's actually amazing indoor. you'll be far better off with better control, faster learning, less maintenance breakage and wear, etc...
i would also opt for the hudy oils. AE and Losi oils go by weight and weight is arbitrary, it differes from company to company. the way hudy measures viscosity is by CST like it should be, a real linear measurement. this means it's easier deciding what to use because you understand the values. plus many xray setups are done in cst. plus hudy oils are amazing. they last a long time and they just feel super smooth. smoother than any other oil i have tried. once you get stocked up it's not too expensive. just costs a bit more up front, but once you have a bunch of oils replacing 1 bottle every few months is nothing. xray is like that in general. at first theyre expensive but then once youve had them for a long time you barely ever have to replace parts and you have a stock of extras anyway.
i would also opt for the hudy oils. AE and Losi oils go by weight and weight is arbitrary, it differes from company to company. the way hudy measures viscosity is by CST like it should be, a real linear measurement. this means it's easier deciding what to use because you understand the values. plus many xray setups are done in cst. plus hudy oils are amazing. they last a long time and they just feel super smooth. smoother than any other oil i have tried. once you get stocked up it's not too expensive. just costs a bit more up front, but once you have a bunch of oils replacing 1 bottle every few months is nothing. xray is like that in general. at first theyre expensive but then once youve had them for a long time you barely ever have to replace parts and you have a stock of extras anyway.
As for the oils, if the bottles of hudy stuff were bigger, I might consider it. I've used AE oils for many years, never had an issue with it. They are made local, IIRC Lucas makes it for AE. They are a semi-reputable company IMO.
I found several debriefing blogs where folks have done some major homework. If they are fairly accurate, I will be able to get a baseline close to the stock 400 and 500cst fluid. I can then go from there and make any adjustments. I have to go back in, anyway, I don't particularly like the rebound (they pull in slightly) my shocks have at the moment. I like the bladder type and have much more control and experience setting them up.
As for a hudy accessory product that was remarkable and that I'd consider buying, the graphite silicone grease fits this bill. I was fairly impressed.
12-07-2016, 01:34 PM
#4164
Tech Fanatic
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Stock motor will definitely be easier and smoother.. I'm thinking something a bit more, maybe a 13.5T or in that neighborhood. It looks like I'm set on a HW XR10 deal and one of their motors. I have good local support and availability. Looks like I can get both high end items for a about $250ish.
As for the oils, if the bottles of hudy stuff were bigger, I might consider it. I've used AE oils for many years, never had an issue with it. They are made local, IIRC Lucas makes it for AE. They are a semi-reputable company IMO.
I found several debriefing blogs where folks have done some major homework. If they are fairly accurate, I will be able to get a baseline close to the stock 400 and 500cst fluid. I can then go from there and make any adjustments. I have to go back in, anyway, I don't particularly like the rebound (they pull in slightly) my shocks have at the moment. I like the bladder type and have much more control and experience setting them up.
As for a hudy accessory product that was remarkable and that I'd consider buying, the graphite silicone grease fits this bill. I was fairly impressed.
As for the oils, if the bottles of hudy stuff were bigger, I might consider it. I've used AE oils for many years, never had an issue with it. They are made local, IIRC Lucas makes it for AE. They are a semi-reputable company IMO.
I found several debriefing blogs where folks have done some major homework. If they are fairly accurate, I will be able to get a baseline close to the stock 400 and 500cst fluid. I can then go from there and make any adjustments. I have to go back in, anyway, I don't particularly like the rebound (they pull in slightly) my shocks have at the moment. I like the bladder type and have much more control and experience setting them up.
As for a hudy accessory product that was remarkable and that I'd consider buying, the graphite silicone grease fits this bill. I was fairly impressed.
as for the 13.5 that will be fine but then you have to race in the mod class and will just get beat. id still recommend getting a good 17.5t motor to be quite honest.
and yes sometimes emulsion shocks can be a pain when you're used to bladder-type. what i do is use one of those shock pumps and i pump the air out of the oil. so no bubbles are there. and i bleed the shocks twice as to have no rebound/suck (at least until air is pushed in from use).
12-07-2016, 03:26 PM
#4165
Tech Apprentice
what are you guys using for gearing for 17.5 on a tight high grip carpet track??
12-08-2016, 07:12 AM
#4169
I run 75/29-30 on super hi grip clay
