66LikesHot Bodies D413 1/10 4WD Buggy
09-22-2014, 01:38 PM
#4801
I look at it this way. No car is perfect but hopefully they look at what can be improved on the next run of the car and address the issues. Luckily on this buggy there are very few.
09-22-2014, 01:54 PM
#4802
You are assuming I said the car wasn't great. It most definitely is. Most of them are actually.
The B4.2 is great out of the box, BUT being as I owned 2 of them and had enough of the slop, I actually removed 85% of it via cups and studs and am saying, that the car, great as it was to begin with, was even better. No reason why this wouldn't ring true for the 413.
The B4.2 is great out of the box, BUT being as I owned 2 of them and had enough of the slop, I actually removed 85% of it via cups and studs and am saying, that the car, great as it was to begin with, was even better. No reason why this wouldn't ring true for the 413.
09-22-2014, 02:34 PM
#4803
im going to post a pic up soon. I was so pleasantly surprised on how clean the electronics install looked.
I just used CA glue on the contact areas. didn't think It needed epoxy.
have you guys seen anywhere where where the ackerman adjustments are explained(the dots and +/-). its not in the manual.
I just used CA glue on the contact areas. didn't think It needed epoxy.
have you guys seen anywhere where where the ackerman adjustments are explained(the dots and +/-). its not in the manual.
09-22-2014, 02:39 PM
#4804
How on earth can you say you cannot test this? You have a 413 and thus can purchase more precise ball cups and studs as well as the steering mod to remove most of the play in the system. As such you most definitely CAN test and actually see if what I am saying is factually correct. Just because something is performing stellar, that doesn't mean it cannot be improved upon. If so, might as well never upgrade anything on any of your RC cars, so that argument makes no sense.
I too have owned vehicles who's systems are perhaps too accurate in the way of precision (I still have my original Andy's Carbon Composite RC 10 which has the absolute most precise slide rack steering system likely in the history of all RC) and all it took was a few ultra-fine grains of debris to get caught in there and it locked up. Compare it to the 22's sloppy train wreck of a slide rack and it's the complete opposite of the spectrum. The 22 2.0 is a tad better and perhaps the middle ground, but still lacking enough that TLR addressed it via bearing driven bell cranks. This is a prime example of a company addressing an issue that while not detrimental to the performance of the vehicle, did in fact improve performance via the improved consistency.
Lastly, this is not thread Jacking as we are discussing the D413 and potential issues, deficiencies. I guess in the end we will indeed have to agree to disagree.
I too have owned vehicles who's systems are perhaps too accurate in the way of precision (I still have my original Andy's Carbon Composite RC 10 which has the absolute most precise slide rack steering system likely in the history of all RC) and all it took was a few ultra-fine grains of debris to get caught in there and it locked up. Compare it to the 22's sloppy train wreck of a slide rack and it's the complete opposite of the spectrum. The 22 2.0 is a tad better and perhaps the middle ground, but still lacking enough that TLR addressed it via bearing driven bell cranks. This is a prime example of a company addressing an issue that while not detrimental to the performance of the vehicle, did in fact improve performance via the improved consistency.
Lastly, this is not thread Jacking as we are discussing the D413 and potential issues, deficiencies. I guess in the end we will indeed have to agree to disagree.
09-22-2014, 02:46 PM
#4805
I am wondering is that is why you broke the hinge pin. By gluing the inserts you took flex out of the arms...and the weak point was moved to the pin. Mine are not glued and I can twist my arms almost 90 deg with ease. She when I clip a pipe, the arm just flexes and the hinge pin does not break. Because I have solidly crashed the crap out of this car.
I'm not saying that it wouldn't for others but wanted to speak up and say that gluing doesn't necessarily put your hinge pins at complete risk.
09-22-2014, 02:52 PM
#4806
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09-22-2014, 02:53 PM
#4808
Red Rock hobbies website went live Saturday afternoon. We have a great selection of D413 parts and options. Shipping most products is $1.95 USPS first class and we have free shipping and 10% off all orders of $100 or more.
Coupon code "grandopening"
http://www.redrockhobbies.com/category-s/2200.htm
Coupon code "grandopening"
http://www.redrockhobbies.com/category-s/2200.htm
09-22-2014, 02:56 PM
#4809
I am wondering is that is why you broke the hinge pin. By gluing the inserts you took flex out of the arms...and the weak point was moved to the pin. Mine are not glued and I can twist my arms almost 90 deg with ease. She when I clip a pipe, the arm just flexes and the hinge pin does not break. Because I have solidly crashed the crap out of this car.
i look at it this way. i "only" broke a hinge pin. lol
Last edited by trick25; 09-22-2014 at 03:23 PM.
09-22-2014, 03:08 PM
#4810
Red Rock hobbies website went live Saturday afternoon. We have a great selection of D413 parts and options. Shipping most products is $1.95 USPS first class and we have free shipping and 10% off all orders of $100 or more.
Coupon code "grandopening"
http://www.redrockhobbies.com/category-s/2200.htm
Coupon code "grandopening"
http://www.redrockhobbies.com/category-s/2200.htm
09-22-2014, 03:56 PM
#4811
one of mine.
09-22-2014, 04:08 PM
#4813
I am wondering is that is why you broke the hinge pin. By gluing the inserts you took flex out of the arms...and the weak point was moved to the pin. Mine are not glued and I can twist my arms almost 90 deg with ease. She when I clip a pipe, the arm just flexes and the hinge pin does not break. Because I have solidly crashed the crap out of this car.
I don't think gluing them was the actual cause. Because I broke mines the first time I used the buggy and I don't have anything glued.
09-22-2014, 08:58 PM
#4814
I run with no arm covers on medium bite indoor clay and it's great.
Before driving for HB I owned and raced almost every other wheeler out there. I kept coming back to the Schuey K1 because of its overall precision and drivability. After building and driving the D413 I was hooked and have zero regrets. For me the "slop" allows me to go full throttle out of a corner and down straights without getting bent out of shape if I hit a rut or other anomoly in the surface. With the very tight tolerances "precision" in the K1 I had to be a lot more careful as such things would often ruin a lap or race.
Of course being an HB guy I want everyone to buy a D413. Part of me doesn't mind if some folks don't like it for whatever crazy reason because then I don't have to race against you.
Before driving for HB I owned and raced almost every other wheeler out there. I kept coming back to the Schuey K1 because of its overall precision and drivability. After building and driving the D413 I was hooked and have zero regrets. For me the "slop" allows me to go full throttle out of a corner and down straights without getting bent out of shape if I hit a rut or other anomoly in the surface. With the very tight tolerances "precision" in the K1 I had to be a lot more careful as such things would often ruin a lap or race.
Of course being an HB guy I want everyone to buy a D413. Part of me doesn't mind if some folks don't like it for whatever crazy reason because then I don't have to race against you.