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Old 12-15-2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rc car guy
that was my bad i mixed up those 2 i meant 5.5 faster than 10.5 didnt reread but as i stated in first example is correct
Either way, you're still wrong.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 06:34 PM
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I know this is off topic and been ranted on over and over, but racing at my local track this weekend, many of the 17.5 guys run their buggies and SCT trucks in with the mod classes just for fun and half of the 17.5 field can place well in the A or B main of mod.

The 17.5 class is way to fast and half the guys running 17.5 really should move up to mod. There is little to no class for the intermediate drivers and it is killing our hobby!

I watched 2 newer drivers in 17.5 stock that are decent newer drives. They are way to fast for the rooking or novice class but get lapped way to many times by the guys in 17.5 stock buggy. They would have to just pull over 3-4 times per lap to let one of the fast guys drive by because of the vast difference in skill level.

There really is no point to these classes any longer unless they were to develop newer drivers, we may as well just go back to one open class per chassis.

Sorry... Rant over!
We have the same issue at our tracks around here. The top stock guys are as fast and in some cases faster than the a-main mod guys. The INT guys are just getting smoked, but still running over 2 laps faster than novice. It gets kinda discouraging week after week for the 5 or 6 of us that are at this level.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 06:50 PM
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We have the same issue at our tracks around here. The top stock guys are as fast and in some cases faster than the a-main mod guys. The INT guys are just getting smoked, but still running over 2 laps faster than novice. It gets kinda discouraging week after week for the 5 or 6 of us that are at this level.
Thanks for chiming in on this topic! I want to first say that the guys I am talking about that race stock are GREAT guys!!! I consider many of them friends and they help others and are great to race with at the tracks so that is not the issue. I just feel we miss a huge segment of racing for the guys that are beyond just getting started but are not at that level yet!

17.5 has gotten so fast and I applaud the guys that are running it... You guys are dialed and it is fun to watch the races but I feel this should be moved to the mod class where that skill level belongs.

I did the same thing years back... kept running stock class because I was fast and was alway fighting for the win. I don't know how to solve this issue.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 06:55 PM
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Can somebody be a hero and help me out?

I need (1) rear shock body nothing else just the shock body.

If you do, please PM me with price : ) thank you!
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Old 12-15-2013 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JFuel11
Thanks for chiming in on this topic! I want to first say that the guys I am talking about that race stock are GREAT guys!!! I consider many of them friends and they help others and are great to race with at the tracks so that is not the issue. I just feel we miss a huge segment of racing for the guys that are beyond just getting started but are not at that level yet!

17.5 has gotten so fast and I applaud the guys that are running it... You guys are dialed and it is fun to watch the races but I feel this should be moved to the mod class where that skill level belongs.

I did the same thing years back... kept running stock class because I was fast and was alway fighting for the win. I don't know how to solve this issue.
17.5 is not and should not be a "stepping stone" to Mod. Not everyone can be a winner.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JFuel11
Thanks for chiming in on this topic! I want to first say that the guys I am talking about that race stock are GREAT guys!!! I consider many of them friends and they help others and are great to race with at the tracks so that is not the issue. I just feel we miss a huge segment of racing for the guys that are beyond just getting started but are not at that level yet!

17.5 has gotten so fast and I applaud the guys that are running it... You guys are dialed and it is fun to watch the races but I feel this should be moved to the mod class where that skill level belongs.

I did the same thing years back... kept running stock class because I was fast and was alway fighting for the win. I don't know how to solve this issue.
I always took stock as a begginer for 2wd buggy and its just progression to get to mod.

Its my first full indoor season running stock buggy and as soon as the points seris is over for my local track a mod motor is going in.

Every seris race the top 5 of the amain just check out and run right together for 8 minutes straight with a ton of lead changes. But eventually you gotta move up.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 07:40 PM
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At the track I have been running at the novice or beginner drivers run buggy in 13.5 blinky. They do not run a mod class for 2wd so all the intermediate+ advanced drivers run 17.5. I look forward to running in 17.5 stock as it's a drivers race in most respects as opposed to who has the more technical skill in conjunction with driving skills Ie modified.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 08:27 PM
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I guess I am just from the "old school" where you aspired to run mod, and really moved out of stock as soon as you got the skills. (Im talking RC10 team car days with NiCad's, brushed motors and gold and black was Tekin's colors!)
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Old 12-15-2013 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fivepointnine
I guess I am just from the "old school" where you aspired to run mod, and really moved out of stock as soon as you got the skills. (Im talking RC10 team car days with NiCad's, brushed motors and gold and black was Tekin's colors!)
I miss those days.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fivepointnine
I guess I am just from the "old school" where you aspired to run mod, and really moved out of stock as soon as you got the skills. (Im talking RC10 team car days with NiCad's, brushed motors and gold and black was Tekin's colors!)
I cant wait to go mod. but the seris I am in the top 3 are all separated by a point and we are 4 rounds in of 8 lol
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Old 12-15-2013 | 09:03 PM
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17.5 is not and should not be a "stepping stone" to Mod. Not everyone can be a winner.
I agree that everyone can not be a winner but if you are going to jump in then try to contribute to the topic. How do we develop intermediate drivers?

If the answer is let them get lapped in 17.5 and pull over several times per laps for the almost pro drivers then it is what it is and our hobby will continue to struggle to gain more new long term drivers.

I also understand that we can't have 4 classes for a single chassis so there may not be a better answer either?

Just trying to provoke some thought on the topic, but want to keep it constructive and helpful please.

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Old 12-15-2013 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JFuel11
I agree that everyone can not be a winner but if you are going to jump in then try to contribute to the topic. How do we develop intermediate drivers?

If the answer is let them get lapped in 17.5 and pull over several times per laps for the almost pro drivers then it is what it is and our hobby will continue to struggle to gain more new long term drivers.

I also understand that we can't have 4 classes for a single chassis so there may not be a better answer either?

Just trying to provoke some thought on the topic, but want to keep it constructive and helpful please.

Alan
maybe do like a sportsman stock buggy and a expert stock buggy? but then the problem is who qualifies for what and who decides that.

really wish we ran super stock out here in the mid west.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 09:52 PM
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I wish super stock was done at my track too. Maybe make mod buggy and expert buggy, an open buggy class the. You can do stock, super stock, and open.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 10:03 PM
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I never really understood the meaning of super stock i mean stock is all about being smooth and consistant. Mod is all about being fast and smooth. But super stock is just faster stock so what is the point? just race mod.
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Old 12-15-2013 | 10:21 PM
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17.5 is stock right? And the rest of the motors are mod class???
I am planning on put a 17.5 in my son's truck and mine so we can run together. And try to teach him how to race.
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