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iThinman 08-03-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by iThinman (Post 12405079)
I busted a solder tab on my 10.5 and need to switch to a rarely used 17.5 while I wait for the fix.

I had been running the 10.5 with the stock spur and a 24 pinion. How should I gear the 17.5?

Thanks!

Oh, surprise surprise! I found a tekin 13.5 in a box!


Oh, wait, the box was from amain and came on a big brown truck, so maybe it wasn't that big of a surprise. :)


Same gearing question for a 13.5 please and thanks again!

YankeeFan123 08-03-2013 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by iThinman (Post 12410424)
Oh, surprise surprise! I found a tekin 13.5 in a box!


Oh, wait, the box was from amain and came on a big brown truck, so maybe it wasn't that big of a surprise. :)


Same gearing question for a 13.5 please and thanks again!

30/72

Team G Racing 08-03-2013 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by YankeeFan123 (Post 12410560)
30/72


72/32 ;)

iThinman 08-03-2013 08:49 AM

You win, I have a 72/32. :) 30's were out of stock

I grabbed 69, 72, 75 & 78 and 29, 31, 32 & 33. All the other pinions I have are <25

YankeeFan123 08-03-2013 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Team G Racing (Post 12410582)
72/32 ;)

With a small straight on the layout I needed more punch rather than top speed. Once you get it close you can adjust based on the current layout you're running on.

racerx128 08-03-2013 05:26 PM

motor timing or esc timing!
 
This is for all the guro's out there which is better to run a 17.5 motor with a lot of can timing or a 17.5 with no can timing and a esc boosted? Witch one is smoother to drive? Just FYI most of the guys at my local track run blinky mode and a revtech 17.5 but the sportsman class is actually an open class.I am currently running a tekin rs gen2 esc and a tekin redline gen1 17.5 with a little can timing and esc boosted.

Wildcat1971 08-03-2013 05:34 PM

the tekin gen1 was designed for esc timing. The didnt put enough can timing on it to work great in blinky. motor timing is smoother, but esc timing can get you cooler temps and more punch because your drop your gearing for boost.

racerx128 08-03-2013 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12411621)
the tekin gen1 was designed for esc timing. The didnt put enough can timing on it to work great in blinky. motor timing is smoother, but esc timing can get you cooler temps and more punch because your drop your gearing for boost.

So would you switch to a different motor or stay with what I got and run boost in the esc?

Wildcat1971 08-03-2013 08:19 PM

if you are allowed to boost, then boost it. nothing really wrong with the motor.

mv91pony 08-03-2013 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by mihaelbencek (Post 12404457)
I would go with 23 or 22. this is my set up.

Thnx man.
just put a 22 on it and got a 23 to try as well.

racerx128 08-03-2013 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12412052)
if you are allowed to boost, then boost it. nothing really wrong with the motor.

thanks!

Waflet 08-03-2013 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by racerx128 (Post 12411608)
This is for all the guro's out there which is better to run a 17.5 motor with a lot of can timing or a 17.5 with no can timing and a esc boosted? Witch one is smoother to drive? Just FYI most of the guys at my local track run blinky mode and a revtech 17.5 but the sportsman class is actually an open class.I am currently running a tekin rs gen2 esc and a tekin redline gen1 17.5 with a little can timing and esc boosted.

Hide echo
I recently did a trade to get a reedy 17.5t to give it a try & absolutely love it. I'm running 40* (max) on the can & 40* on the the ESC. I'm geared 30/72. After 20 minutes of hard practice against others running 7.5-8.5 motors I'm temping 150* on the can & 120* on the ESC. I give up a little on the straight, but between short straights & how smooth it is on acceleration, it's only about 1/2 a car length. The best thing about it is my average lap time went from a 2 second spread to less than 1 second spread:eek:, its that easy to drive.

Skillz_B 08-04-2013 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by Waflet (Post 12412278)
Hide echo
I recently did a trade to get a reedy 17.5t to give it a try & absolutely love it. I'm running 40* (max) on the can & 40* on the the ESC. I'm geared 30/72. After 20 minutes of hard practice against others running 7.5-8.5 motors I'm temping 150* on the can & 120* on the ESC. I give up a little on the straight, but between short straights & how smooth it is on acceleration, it's only about 1/2 a car length. The best thing about it is my average lap time went from a 2 second spread to less than 1 second spread:eek:, its that easy to drive.

I was under the impression there was no esc timing in blinky :confused:

ifuonlyknew 08-04-2013 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by iThinman (Post 12410424)
Oh, surprise surprise! I found a tekin 13.5 in a box!


Oh, wait, the box was from amain and came on a big brown truck, so maybe it wasn't that big of a surprise. :)


Same gearing question for a 13.5 please and thanks again!


Originally Posted by YankeeFan123 (Post 12410560)
30/72


Originally Posted by Team G Racing (Post 12410582)
72/32 ;)


Originally Posted by iThinman (Post 12410598)
You win, I have a 72/32. :) 30's were out of stock

I grabbed 69, 72, 75 & 78 and 29, 31, 32 & 33. All the other pinions I have are <25


Originally Posted by YankeeFan123 (Post 12410601)
With a small straight on the layout I needed more punch rather than top speed. Once you get it close you can adjust based on the current layout you're running on.


Originally Posted by racerx128 (Post 12411608)
This is for all the guro's out there which is better to run a 17.5 motor with a lot of can timing or a 17.5 with no can timing and a esc boosted? Witch one is smoother to drive? Just FYI most of the guys at my local track run blinky mode and a revtech 17.5 but the sportsman class is actually an open class.I am currently running a tekin rs gen2 esc and a tekin redline gen1 17.5 with a little can timing and esc boosted.


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12411621)
the tekin gen1 was designed for esc timing. The didnt put enough can timing on it to work great in blinky. motor timing is smoother, but esc timing can get you cooler temps and more punch because your drop your gearing for boost.


Originally Posted by racerx128 (Post 12411919)
So would you switch to a different motor or stay with what I got and run boost in the esc?


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12412052)
if you are allowed to boost, then boost it. nothing really wrong with the motor.


Originally Posted by mv91pony (Post 12412122)
Thnx man.
just put a 22 on it and got a 23 to try as well.


Originally Posted by racerx128 (Post 12412186)
thanks!


Originally Posted by Waflet (Post 12412278)
Hide echo
I recently did a trade to get a reedy 17.5t to give it a try & absolutely love it. I'm running 40* (max) on the can & 40* on the the ESC. I'm geared 30/72. After 20 minutes of hard practice against others running 7.5-8.5 motors I'm temping 150* on the can & 120* on the ESC. I give up a little on the straight, but between short straights & how smooth it is on acceleration, it's only about 1/2 a car length. The best thing about it is my average lap time went from a 2 second spread to less than 1 second spread:eek:, its that easy to drive.


Originally Posted by Skillz_B (Post 12412415)
I was under the impression there was no esc timing in blinky :confused:

Is this the thread for the B4.2? Or, a thread which should be titled "How do I set timing and gearing".

Waflet, that just tells me that you are not ready for whichever motor you were running before the 17.5. I'm in the same boat (sort of). About a month ago my best run with a 7.5 was a 24 6:06. My best run with a boosted 17.5 was a 24 6:02, but the best run with the 7.5 was on the first night of a new layout, and the best 17.5 run was a month later. I know I can crack 25 if I put the 7.5 back in, and the traffic is right. The best 7.5 run was on a Tuesday. It was just the "buggy" class, and there were guys 8-10 laps off pace. You know how hard it is to go that fast with people going that slow?

Waflet 08-04-2013 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Skillz_B (Post 12412415)
I was under the impression there was no esc timing in blinky :confused:

Hideeho
I'm running it in an open class on a small, low to medium grip indoor track. Track conditions are the reason the motor works. On a large track &/or high grip track it would get blown away.


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