Team Associated B4.2 Thread
#3031
Question:
How much harder is a Gold JC Tire Compared to a Green JC Tire?
Or are they both for completely different surfaces?
Everyone who runs Gold says they last forever, and Green guys say they dont last long
How much harder is a Gold JC Tire Compared to a Green JC Tire?
Or are they both for completely different surfaces?
Everyone who runs Gold says they last forever, and Green guys say they dont last long
#3032
Anyway, a visual is always nice. Here are 3 pics of the same tire. worn out or not?
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
#3033
Never thought i liked tapered pistons before in the v2 shocks but in these big bores the AE machined tapered pistons work awesome!
On my medium bite large indoor track with about a 70% clay content i am running the green/white ae springs 32/30 ae oil 3 hole 1.4 pistons up front and the 2x1.6 in the rear. The rest of my car is pretty much identical to Steven Hartsons setup as far as i know except servo, i am running the airtronics94930 servo with my m12
I came to this conclusion of piston set-up after running first the 1.4x3hole front and rear then noting how my car felt then running the 2x1.6 front and rear and noting how it felt.
Seemed the 3 hole didnt give me enough pack for our large jumps but then the 2 hole 1.6's felt too stiff and not quite balanced in the front so i put the 3 hole pistons in the front and my car came to life, not that it was bad before but i felt more connected and had better steering since my front end dove into the corners more consistent. On a higher bite track it may not be ideal, but time will tell on that one.
Also ran green pressure points in the back with gold barcodes front a few days after running the above set-up and i was amazed how well they work and with the white sticky kicks im not getting excessive wear either. The track wasn't dry either and i usually wouldnt run a green compound unless the track was dry but i was just as fast if not faster with the green pressure points then my v1 gold barcodes. If the track was dry they may have got eaten up fast but thats the trade off.
The pressure points are very smooth and consistent, broke in pretty quickly as well. I ran a medium insert. The carcass fits tight around the foam compared to some super soft tires which most likely helps keep them feeling smooth and not edgy around the track.
Im guessing these feel similar to the Ions that everyone is raving about but not certain since i havent tried a pair.
On my medium bite large indoor track with about a 70% clay content i am running the green/white ae springs 32/30 ae oil 3 hole 1.4 pistons up front and the 2x1.6 in the rear. The rest of my car is pretty much identical to Steven Hartsons setup as far as i know except servo, i am running the airtronics94930 servo with my m12

I came to this conclusion of piston set-up after running first the 1.4x3hole front and rear then noting how my car felt then running the 2x1.6 front and rear and noting how it felt.
Seemed the 3 hole didnt give me enough pack for our large jumps but then the 2 hole 1.6's felt too stiff and not quite balanced in the front so i put the 3 hole pistons in the front and my car came to life, not that it was bad before but i felt more connected and had better steering since my front end dove into the corners more consistent. On a higher bite track it may not be ideal, but time will tell on that one.
Also ran green pressure points in the back with gold barcodes front a few days after running the above set-up and i was amazed how well they work and with the white sticky kicks im not getting excessive wear either. The track wasn't dry either and i usually wouldnt run a green compound unless the track was dry but i was just as fast if not faster with the green pressure points then my v1 gold barcodes. If the track was dry they may have got eaten up fast but thats the trade off.
The pressure points are very smooth and consistent, broke in pretty quickly as well. I ran a medium insert. The carcass fits tight around the foam compared to some super soft tires which most likely helps keep them feeling smooth and not edgy around the track.
Im guessing these feel similar to the Ions that everyone is raving about but not certain since i havent tried a pair.
#3034
I plan on running ribbed tires on the front.
I can understand they not hooking up on the indoor tracks. But I'll be outdoor.
Indoors I think front suburbs would be better, but I hear the scrubs are good too.
I can understand they not hooking up on the indoor tracks. But I'll be outdoor.
Indoors I think front suburbs would be better, but I hear the scrubs are good too.
#3037
Anyway, a visual is always nice. Here are 3 pics of the same tire. worn out or not?
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
#3038
#3039
#3040
#3041

So to answer your question, green imo would typically be ran on a track that doesn't have a very very high clay content and/or if it is ran on the dry side, the blue compound (soft) could also maybe be a option in these conditions.
In my case with our clay content both compounds work well and the super softs are usually easier to get to work if your set-up isn't as perfect.
Golds will last a very long time unless you are using a real potent sauce during a dry-moist track condition.
Anyway, a visual is always nice. Here are 3 pics of the same tire. worn out or not?
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
yes the 1.6's were machined. Didn't have the 1.3x4 pistons. the only machined pistons i have are the ae 2x1.6 tapered, the ae 3x1.4 tapered and the avid 1.5x1.1 two plus two flat pistons. I tried the 1.4x3 pistons with 30 up front and it was too soft and with my findings with the 1.4x3's i skipped trying the 30 oil up front. I heard after my findings that with the tapered pistons 32/30 front and rear should be about right. I thought about trying 30/30 with the 1.6's but wanted to try the 3 hole with 32 since i had a feel for it already and i had a good feeling about them and i made the switch during my 2nd heat during one of my last club races.
#3043
I assume the machined 1.6's felt much better than the stock 1.6s? I also think for my track the tapered piston would be very good. The track is not super smooth and with the weather, it can get a little lumpy. not a big deal at lower speeds, but it can be hard to keep up high speeds and keep the rear planted.
#3044
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,616
From: New Jersey
Anyway, a visual is always nice. Here are 3 pics of the same tire. worn out or not?
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg
to me it looks like the 3rd rib from the left has lost 1 of its edges.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/9297/tire2c.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/1162/tire3e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/1256/tirej.jpg



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