Xray XB4 thread
#3226
Tech Master
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I just got a set for my last race. I was previously running the Martin Bayer set up with the drilled 1.6f and 1.7 rear. That was a good shock setup but I felt it lacked pack. I was real happy with my first outing with the avid 1.6x1.1 pistons. They suggest the 1.5x1.1 up front with the 1.6x1.1 rear, but I was not wanting to buy two full sets.
#3228
What pistons did he use??? I'm pretty sure it wasn't the stock xray pistons. Those are really loose in the bore and have way to much oil blow-by to develop any kind of pack. The shock package on this car is the one area that I felt could have used an update. It would have been nice to see an improved shock on the 2014 model.
#3230
Tech Master
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Is there an error in the set ups or the explanation of the new 2014 spec parts?
Xray details that the new +2mm rear suspension hangers are to be screwed directly onto the rear chassis for low traction conditions, yet, I am seeing set ups recommending using the +2mm hangers AND the plastic chassis plate, for running on carpet - which is high traction.
Also, I'd have to agree, I thought a better shock package for 2014 was all but a guarantee. I'm holding out for 3rd party aluminum bleeder caps and machined bushings. I imagine Kyosho makes some sort of O-ring or X ring that will work as well.
I ordered some machined pistons online from Macau - I'll let ya's know what they are like once they arrive in a month! If they're good - I'll be ordering 1.2 2 hole and 1.3 3 hole to copy the basic set ups. I'm also switching to AE 12mm springs & lower spring cups - cheaper and easier to compare to other brands!
Xray details that the new +2mm rear suspension hangers are to be screwed directly onto the rear chassis for low traction conditions, yet, I am seeing set ups recommending using the +2mm hangers AND the plastic chassis plate, for running on carpet - which is high traction.
Also, I'd have to agree, I thought a better shock package for 2014 was all but a guarantee. I'm holding out for 3rd party aluminum bleeder caps and machined bushings. I imagine Kyosho makes some sort of O-ring or X ring that will work as well.
I ordered some machined pistons online from Macau - I'll let ya's know what they are like once they arrive in a month! If they're good - I'll be ordering 1.2 2 hole and 1.3 3 hole to copy the basic set ups. I'm also switching to AE 12mm springs & lower spring cups - cheaper and easier to compare to other brands!
#3231
Tech Regular
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hi!.. is this one the new material gear or this is the older one?..just curious cuz i heard it,s supposed to be stamped 35 at the back of the bevel gear...i just order some and a just make sure i dont buy older stuff lol thx folks!
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ial-Bevel-Gear
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ial-Bevel-Gear
#3232
Tech Elite
iTrader: (13)
hi!.. is this one the new material gear or this is the older one?..just curious cuz i heard it,s supposed to be stamped 35 at the back of the bevel gear...i just order some and a just make sure i dont buy older stuff lol thx folks!
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ial-Bevel-Gear
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ial-Bevel-Gear
#3234
Tech Adept
Is there an error in the set ups or the explanation of the new 2014 spec parts?
Xray details that the new +2mm rear suspension hangers are to be screwed directly onto the rear chassis for low traction conditions, yet, I am seeing set ups recommending using the +2mm hangers AND the plastic chassis plate, for running on carpet - which is high traction.
Xray details that the new +2mm rear suspension hangers are to be screwed directly onto the rear chassis for low traction conditions, yet, I am seeing set ups recommending using the +2mm hangers AND the plastic chassis plate, for running on carpet - which is high traction.
So no error, they actually drive it like that
The picture is from redrc.
Regards,
David
#3235
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
Thanks Niemand, but that outlines my confusion - why is Bayer using the low traction suspension hangers for high traction? I run indoor, high traction, astro and outdoor, medium traction clay, and I am trying to decide if I need these new suspension hangers or not.
The Xray explanation didn't cover this combined use of parts....
The Xray explanation didn't cover this combined use of parts....
#3236
Tech Elite
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Thanks Niemand, but that outlines my confusion - why is Bayer using the low traction suspension hangers for high traction? I run indoor, high traction, astro and outdoor, medium traction clay, and I am trying to decide if I need these new suspension hangers or not.
The Xray explanation didn't cover this combined use of parts....
The Xray explanation didn't cover this combined use of parts....
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/xray/se...vy20130811.pdf
run that first and see if you need anything else (you wont be disappointed)
Last edited by joeymdz; 10-29-2013 at 08:39 AM.
#3237
R/C Tech Elite Member
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I'm having issues on a hard packed clay circuit, and am 2-3 seconds a lap off the pace, am finding the car doesn't grip too well if you try to carry speed coming into and through a tight corner, would using the progressive springs work? Also would adding a few washers under the uptravel O ring assist not only with bottoming out but stability going into a corner after a jump?
#3238
Tech Elite
iTrader: (43)
Give the car more flex, take out all of the flex screws and see what happens. You can always add a couple back later.
I also found I really like the 2 dot front and 1 dot rear, those help a lot coming out of the corner. And finally the new slipper pads will help quite a bit getting on the power.
I also found I really like the 2 dot front and 1 dot rear, those help a lot coming out of the corner. And finally the new slipper pads will help quite a bit getting on the power.
#3239
Tech Fanatic
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I'm having issues on a hard packed clay circuit, and am 2-3 seconds a lap off the pace, am finding the car doesn't grip too well if you try to carry speed coming into and through a tight corner, would using the progressive springs work? Also would adding a few washers under the uptravel O ring assist not only with bottoming out but stability going into a corner after a jump?
I have put my latest setup for our home track on the Xray website if you wish to try it. Some of the stock drivers had a wheel of my car on a practice day with the EPA reduced to stock speed. They liked it because it turned in a little harder then their own cars with stock settings.
Putting the washer under the o-ring is now moving the force/energy that is being absorbed by the chassis to the shock and the shock tower.
#3240
Tech Master
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I'm having issues on a hard packed clay circuit, and am 2-3 seconds a lap off the pace, am finding the car doesn't grip too well if you try to carry speed coming into and through a tight corner, would using the progressive springs work? Also would adding a few washers under the uptravel O ring assist not only with bottoming out but stability going into a corner after a jump?