TLR 22SCT Thread (Check First Page for FAQ & INFO)
#3826
#3827
Won my first B-main since I started racing SCT! This is the first time I've made the A-main when there were enough cars to have a B-main.
#3828
Tech Elite
iTrader: (66)
I was looking or more general set up advise on how to move motor weight to the rear, IE raise the front ride height 1mm, more droop in front (which is what I did, help some, but would like a little more rear bite still. Might add more weight via a full size battery.)
Going to have to ask what intel you speak of. When there is only one side of an argument thats not intel. I am sure the rear motor works great, but the kit doesn't even have a base mid motor set up in it. So I am going to have to go with not even the factory has tried it that much or not enough to be cofident with a base set up.
I seem to be the only one brave enough to try Mid Motor. Everyone else seems to be to scared to test it out. Yes it takes more time than just copying a factory drivers set-up but thats what I enjoy. Tweeking and testing, just needed some advise.
Going to have to ask what intel you speak of. When there is only one side of an argument thats not intel. I am sure the rear motor works great, but the kit doesn't even have a base mid motor set up in it. So I am going to have to go with not even the factory has tried it that much or not enough to be cofident with a base set up.
I seem to be the only one brave enough to try Mid Motor. Everyone else seems to be to scared to test it out. Yes it takes more time than just copying a factory drivers set-up but thats what I enjoy. Tweeking and testing, just needed some advise.
#3829
droping off the truck at lhs to get the motor hook up and esc set up
#3830
Tech Elite
iTrader: (65)
Proffessor bravery really? Didn't you ask for opinions? Its known that rear motor has better bite than mid.
Its not that people are scared we just know what to run on dirt.....
You can try harder front and softer rear springs. Lighter rear shock oil. Maybe a front swaybar. Reduce rear antisquat. Move the battery aft.
Some of those may help with mid motor.
Its not that people are scared we just know what to run on dirt.....
You can try harder front and softer rear springs. Lighter rear shock oil. Maybe a front swaybar. Reduce rear antisquat. Move the battery aft.
Some of those may help with mid motor.
#3831
all right, have a bad off power over steer issue going on. Mid motor set p lots of weight added. all 70 grams of mid motor weight kit and aluminum bulkheads front and rear and alam front pivot.
Front:
-1 toe
RH 30mm
-1.5 Camber
Caster/Kick 0/30
Oil 32 1/2
piston 57
spring black
3mm internal limiters
shock location 3-outside
0mm bump steer
camber 1 1mm outside 2mm inside
spindle 2mm above casterblock 0 below
Rear:
loose ball diff
toe -3.5
antsquat 2 deg
lrc
RH 30mm
camber -1.5
Hub all the way forward
+.75 hex
30 Wt oil
55 piston
yellow spring
3mm internal spacer
location 2 - outside
Battery 1 middle
Camber 1-b 1mm outside 2mm inside
4000mah shorty (dont have any other packs)
Any sugestions. The front end just seems to carve hard on and off power, but off power its really bad. the back end just wants to in the front
Hard pack LARGE 1/8 track ran dry and dusty. using hole shots or blockades
Please help race starts early sunday morning
Front:
-1 toe
RH 30mm
-1.5 Camber
Caster/Kick 0/30
Oil 32 1/2
piston 57
spring black
3mm internal limiters
shock location 3-outside
0mm bump steer
camber 1 1mm outside 2mm inside
spindle 2mm above casterblock 0 below
Rear:
loose ball diff
toe -3.5
antsquat 2 deg
lrc
RH 30mm
camber -1.5
Hub all the way forward
+.75 hex
30 Wt oil
55 piston
yellow spring
3mm internal spacer
location 2 - outside
Battery 1 middle
Camber 1-b 1mm outside 2mm inside
4000mah shorty (dont have any other packs)
Any sugestions. The front end just seems to carve hard on and off power, but off power its really bad. the back end just wants to in the front
Hard pack LARGE 1/8 track ran dry and dusty. using hole shots or blockades
Please help race starts early sunday morning
#3832
Tech Elite
iTrader: (66)
What about some different front tires for more push? The fullsize battery has to also put more on rear,but also also some more in front at same time?? Ive actually been running your midmotor setup on med bite clay and had same issue, had to put less grip tires in front for huge improvement. Im a novice and running within .5sec of the pros running rear motor. I'm like you in going against the grain trying to be different. I still have faith in this setup but i have yet to run on loose surface so time will tell.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try try it as soon as I can get some more tires. I am thinking Tazers m3/m4, mabey some m2 holeshots/blockades. And good luck on your mid motor. Maybe the tide will turn against "convintional wisdom". More and more companies are offering both, or conversions, so I think we are just ahead of the game. I think the trick to the mid motor on meim/low grip surfaces is weight. I added a ton to my MM 22 (front and rear) and now its awesome. I just dont have anymore right now to test on the truck.
Last edited by theproffesor; 10-20-2012 at 05:40 PM.
#3833
not much room for the motor tabs it tight fit
#3834
R/C Tech Elite Member
iTrader: (112)
I have thought of trying that, but not sure about the predictablity/consistancy of that kind of set-up. I also as of now only have 3 sets of tires and really dont want to shell out anymore $$$. The blockades and hole shots actually work about the same, and the MC compound suburbs I am afraid would push so bad that it would do more harm than good.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try try it as soon as I can get some more tires. I am thinking Tazers m3/m4, mabey some m2 holeshots/blockades. And good luck on your mid motor. Maybe the tide will turn against "convintional wisdom". More and more companies are offering both, or conversions, so I think we are just ahead of the game. I think the trick to the mid motor on meim/low grip surfaces is weight. I added a ton to my MM 22 (front and rear) and now its awesome. I just dont have anymore right now to test on the truck.
Thanks for the advice. I'll try try it as soon as I can get some more tires. I am thinking Tazers m3/m4, mabey some m2 holeshots/blockades. And good luck on your mid motor. Maybe the tide will turn against "convintional wisdom". More and more companies are offering both, or conversions, so I think we are just ahead of the game. I think the trick to the mid motor on meim/low grip surfaces is weight. I added a ton to my MM 22 (front and rear) and now its awesome. I just dont have anymore right now to test on the truck.
I ran mid motor on my 22T at a medium/high grip indoor clay track and it sucked there! Went rear motor and it was lights out!
But good uck there, maybe you could try a lil more rear toe, the 4 degree blocks perhaps? Or a lil more rear weight.
#3835
I just received my Hot Rc sway bar kit....very good quality. Im running rear motor and the front end of the car looks easy to install the sway bar, but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to install the rear end. Would anyone mind posting a pic. of the rear end where the sway bar gets mounted? Thanks
#3836
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
all right, have a bad off power over steer issue going on. Mid motor set p lots of weight added. all 70 grams of mid motor weight kit and aluminum bulkheads front and rear and alam front pivot.
Front:
-1 toe
RH 30mm
-1.5 Camber
Caster/Kick 0/30
Oil 32 1/2
piston 57
spring black
3mm internal limiters
shock location 3-outside
0mm bump steer
camber 1 1mm outside 2mm inside
spindle 2mm above casterblock 0 below
Rear:
loose ball diff
toe -3.5
antsquat 2 deg
lrc
RH 30mm
camber -1.5
Hub all the way forward
+.75 hex
30 Wt oil
55 piston
yellow spring
3mm internal spacer
location 2 - outside
Battery 1 middle
Camber 1-b 1mm outside 2mm inside
4000mah shorty (dont have any other packs)
Any sugestions. The front end just seems to carve hard on and off power, but off power its really bad. the back end just wants to in the front
Hard pack LARGE 1/8 track ran dry and dusty. using hole shots or blockades
Please help race starts early sunday morning
Front:
-1 toe
RH 30mm
-1.5 Camber
Caster/Kick 0/30
Oil 32 1/2
piston 57
spring black
3mm internal limiters
shock location 3-outside
0mm bump steer
camber 1 1mm outside 2mm inside
spindle 2mm above casterblock 0 below
Rear:
loose ball diff
toe -3.5
antsquat 2 deg
lrc
RH 30mm
camber -1.5
Hub all the way forward
+.75 hex
30 Wt oil
55 piston
yellow spring
3mm internal spacer
location 2 - outside
Battery 1 middle
Camber 1-b 1mm outside 2mm inside
4000mah shorty (dont have any other packs)
Any sugestions. The front end just seems to carve hard on and off power, but off power its really bad. the back end just wants to in the front
Hard pack LARGE 1/8 track ran dry and dusty. using hole shots or blockades
Please help race starts early sunday morning
AKA Grid Irons on all four corners.
32.5wt in Front Shocks
30wt in the Rears.
Full battery pack pushed all the way back.
10g Weight on top of the servo.
Im loving my 22SCT on the exact same track conditions as yours, with a 10.5T motor I am Wheelieing down the main straight yes I have that much grip, its fantastic that a near stock setup took 2.5 second avg off of my lap time over my FT SC10.
#3837
Tech Addict
I just received my Hot Rc sway bar kit....very good quality. Im running rear motor and the front end of the car looks easy to install the sway bar, but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to install the rear end. Would anyone mind posting a pic. of the rear end where the sway bar gets mounted? Thanks
#3839
I just received my Hot Rc sway bar kit....very good quality. Im running rear motor and the front end of the car looks easy to install the sway bar, but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to install the rear end. Would anyone mind posting a pic. of the rear end where the sway bar gets mounted? Thanks
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#3840
Thanks ScottKelly911 & Losi57, I followed the diagram and used the gold rear swaybar....have not tested the swaybars on the track yet, but boy does it take out alot of the chassis roll. I'm sure my chassis will be better planted, as before the chassis would roll too much in high speed turns.