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Old 04-03-2013 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisAttebery
It should be 3/2. Which Blair setup are you looking at?
I may have messed up. I have 3 set up sheets laminated inside my trailer hanging on the pegboard. I may have looked at the wrong one. Maybe I should just try it at 5/0, and I do have he fluids at 5,5,3.
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Old 04-04-2013 | 05:50 AM
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Last night I used a variation of Balirs set up. 5,5,3 diff, 35/30, 1.3x8 Kyosho pistons, light blue Kyosho springs all around, rear pushed back all the way 5mm shimmed front of hub. 2050kv geared 16/46, max amps race pack. All other parameters just like Blair's set-up. First qualifier I did not remove any of the braces. The rear was stiff and would swing around pretty good. I removed the rear brace for the main and the car changed. I mean it was hooked up. If I remove the rear light blue Kyosho springs and go to a orange or yellow, I think it will be perfect. Finished second in the main. I wish I would have tried HB Megabites instead of AKA impacts on our track. It was quick Wednesday night race, so I left it alone. I hope the NB48 will be similiar to this car.

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Old 04-04-2013 | 07:25 AM
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Anyone have a link to the Balirs setup that is being referenced?

*edit* think I found them. http://www.teknorc.com/eb48-setup-sheets/
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Old 04-04-2013 | 08:58 AM
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Why do some setups use Kyosho orange springs (i.e. Barry Baker setup on Tekno site)?

Are they softer than any offered by Tekno? More progressive?

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Old 04-04-2013 | 09:34 AM
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The Kyosho rear orange springs are rated at 3.4lbs where the stiffest Tekno rears are 2.93 lbs.

I asked Blair this question and he said that those are the springs/pistons that everyone uses for nitro buggies so they really understand them. He also said that they support the car better and make it easier to land when the car is out of shape (not bottoming out).

To me the Kyosho Light Blue/Orange springs feel firmer compared to the Tekno front yellow and rear orange.

I just put a set on my car. I can give you more feedback after this weekend's race.


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Originally Posted by bcjoldbq
Why do some setups use Kyosho orange springs (i.e. Barry Baker setup on Tekno site)?

Are they softer than any offered by Tekno? More progressive?

Thanks.
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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bcjoldbq
Why do some setups use Kyosho orange springs (i.e. Barry Baker setup on Tekno site)?

Are they softer than any offered by Tekno? More progressive?

Thanks.
I felt the car would sag with the stock Tekno springs. With the stock Tekno pistons I would have no rebound. The Tekno Springs got worse with age. They weren't alway like that. I've been racing this car since launch. The Kyosho light blue springs all around may be a bit too stiff. I will soften up the rear with orange ones.
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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:39 AM
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[QUOTE=ChrisAttebery;12008873]The Kyosho rear orange springs are rated at 3.4lbs where the stiffest Tekno rears are 2.93 lbs.
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Are Tekno springs rated in lb-in anywhere instead of wire dia. x # of turns?
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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:45 AM
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As illustrated on Tekno RC's Website:

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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by IIGQ4U
As illustrated on Tekno RC's Website:
What he said ^
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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:56 AM
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oh geeez.... hate it when that happens....
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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:57 AM
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Yeah, so do we.
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Old 04-04-2013 | 10:59 AM
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don't feel bad, last time I looked for it it wasn't in a place I would have thought to look myself lol.

For heavier rate springs, I also use these charts that I found online or worked out in excel:

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Hot Bodies D8 spring rates				
Part #	Length	Force	Color	Lbs
67446	60	74	Gray	4.14
67447	60	81	White	4.54
67448	60	89	Blue	4.98
67449	60	98	Orange	5.49
67450	68	59	Green	3.30
67451	68	68	Yellow	3.81
67452	68	81	Red	4.54
67453	76	52	Gray	2.91
67454	76	59	white	3.30
67455	76	63	Blue	3.53
67456	76	74	Orange	4.14
				
	Associated RC8.2 Rates			
	Front		Black	3.30
	Front		Silver	3.90
	Front		Green	4.00
	Front		Silver 8.2	4.30
	Front		Blue	4.65
	Front		Bronze	4.70
	Rear		Black	2.70
	Rear		Green	3.25
	Rear		Silver	3.30
	Rear		Silver 8.2	3.55
	Rear		Blue	3.75
	Rear		Bronze	4.00
				
				
	Xray 1/8 Spring Rates			
Front	White	0.65	3.7115	
Front	Grey	0.7	3.997	
Front	Grey-Blue	0.8	4.568	
Front	Blue	0.86	4.9106	
Front	Violet	0.92	5.2532	
Front	Purple	0.98	5.5958	
Rear	White	0.47	2.6837	
Rear	Grey	0.5	2.855	
Rear	Grey-Blue	0.57	3.2547	
Rear	Blue	0.61	3.4831	
Rear	Violet	0.65	3.7115	
Rear	Purple	0.7	3.997
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Old 04-04-2013 | 11:49 AM
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I was using the K car blue fronts and orange rears with the stock pistons. It was ok, but not great. I switched to the K car 8X1.3 pistons and it works really, really well.
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Old 04-04-2013 | 11:58 AM
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mine has the 1.3mm x 8 hole pistons, and the Xray blue-grey fronts and blue rears and from the bit I got to drive it it was very good.
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Old 04-04-2013 | 12:34 PM
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Im Selling my dxr8e and going to get either the eb48 or the d8 hara with the tekno chassis. which is better in terms of handling. Any cons and pros on these? And what are the main differences besides chassis lay out?
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