TLR 4WD 1/10 Rumors?
 

Hey anybody heard about a new TLR 4WD buggy 1/10? I really want a TLR 4WD buggy but i don't wanna get those old TLR 4wd buggies..

Everybody out there still waiting for a brand new 4WD car from the TLR Team. My advice is to waiting for a while and let's see what happen in the coming months....

The must have something in the works, the 22's front carriers ( c hub) look ready to accept a drive shaft.

let's hope so.

I didn't see any pics yet, but I heard there maybe a 4x4 from ae based on the sc10 4x4 platform. Yet to bother looking into it, but I'd guess it be the equiv of the losi 810 buggy (small 1/8 scale). Super light and awesome for small and indoor tracks.

Lets see a new 4wd for sure!

You mean the ten-SCTE right? Not the associated sc10? :lol: :rolleyes:

nope 4x4 buggy based on the sc10 4x4 platform.. I'd guess it be similar to the relationship of the 810 and the scte though yes. Few differences, but small 1/8 super light buggies.

I can't think of a good reason they'd do that. The SC10 4x4 has had all kinds of problems, hasn't it?

Can't imagine that, everyone is already chasing the B44.1. It's a mini 1/8th, and has NONE of the major fail issues that the SC10 4X4 has. Tough as nails, perfect size and weight, and handles like a dream.

I'm really wondering what direction TLR is going to go to answer the 4wd buggy challenge!

A sc10 4x4 buggy would be 1/8 not 1/10 as the b44.1 is... again just a mid step before going all in on 1/8, budget 1/8 if you will.. can run with 2s,3s easily and 540 4pole motors and compete well on any track. I can see it happening, but who knows.. like I said I didn't even bother looking into it. Not for me :)

I had a chance to drive a electric 810 at the track the other day :D. In my opinon that is what e buggies should be.

crazy 4s setup or did they have a nice 2/3s setup with a 4-pole in it? I've often considered going from my 8ight-e to a 810 just to reduce parts on hand. Something like a pro4 3300kv w/ a 3s 5k lipo would be pretty sick for both handling and run times if you race vs nitro's if you race vs electrics you can stick w/ a 4600 2s w/o issue as races are limited to 10min everywhere.

Honestly I don't even know, guy wanted some opinions on setup. I'm gonna guess 3s had great power but was useable, felt alot more nimble than a regular 1/8th ebuggy and was a blast to drive. Wish there was more for a class as I would definitely get one. Do they meet ROAR specs for 1/8th races???

I think they just miss roar forget what dimention, but unless it's a roar event everyone will let it run even for big events.

Top two factory guys are still running xx4's. Look it up.

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No big problems , thing is a tank and very reliable..

For a brand new design Ae only needs to improve the performance a little more I admit.

Still
Less then a year old & already sold mass kits = very successful design..

Ae Sc 4x4 is not that bad Dave, driving wise or racing one , only problems personally experience thus far is winning & having good times...:cool:

I've seen them run and they look good enough on the track. I hear they are tough to work on. Would you base a 1/10 4wd buggy on the platform?

Yeah , Sc4x4 only little more work due to extra screws compared to others .



Always like the 4w belt design
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think 1/10th 4w needs a fresh & modern belt design to beat the shaft designs already ruling as it is .

Long past due ....

A xx4 that didn't break would be the best 4wd of them all. They still work really good.

What does that got to due with rumors of a Losi 4- wd buggy???!!:rolleyes:Tlr is working with some belt driven 4-wdr 1/10 buggies but you didn't hear it from me!!!:sneaky:

I always wondered what it would be like to add offroad length arms to an existing Touring car. I wonder if that's the route they are going? Would be nice not have to use saddle packs.

losi tried that awhile ago too

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...losi-4wd-1.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...-prototype.jpg

Both the XXX4 (XXX-S) and XX4 (Street Weapon) were also T/C platforms.

The proto in the pictures was done to run the battery down the center but resulted is crazy short suspension arms/travel.

X-Factory is working on a new stand-alone 4wd platform. You can bet that it will heavily borrow from Losi's XX-4 suspension.

With shorty packs and less space needed it should make things much easier.. at least one would think.

Agreed no saddle packs. If it takes saddle packs I don't know if I want one. Itd be cool if it was perfectly balanced with a shorty pack though cause a lot of us 22 guys have them already. Losi should say something on here!

But not ROAR legal. Chassis has to accept Full Size stick or Full Size Saddlepacks.

IMO, biggest reason it won't happen, is that TLR would have to sell it to Horizon, and thus far, everything TLR has come out with has ended up as a RTR. I dont see a market for a RTR 4wd car.

As far as the 810 goes, use the right chassis and it is 1/8th scale legal other than weight

And i doubt there would be a SC104wd based design, they fired the guy that designed it with all the problems. They have it fixed in the FT version, but it was damn near a dead horse at one point

He really got fired!? :lol: it was a decent idea but when it takes and experienced racer 30 minutes to change the servo its ridiculous... That thing is to hard to work on and imo to light to be competitive. On an outdoor track the SCTE will kill it. Even though I hate Losi there products have increased quality like crazy in the past 1-2 years and I am starting to like there stuff.

and no noob will buy a 4wd. Its so hard to sell a "race vehicle" rtr because there price point is way higher.

The SC104wd suffered from way too much lateral flex (busted chassis), and the drive train was really under thought. But, it 550 motors are more power than what they were thinking also. Throw in improperly thought geometry and it really fell on its face. Gotta give em perks though, they worked on it and fixed it. Kept it from being turned into a basher or dropping it all together.

The SC104wd, at least what the AE team is racing, is better IMO, and though last year the Losi (Which I own) had an advantage, I do think it will be a much different this year once warmer weather comes across the country. Mind you, they are $1500 trucks also.

The SCTE is kind crude, but it works. Its a migration of their 1/8th scale Nitro car (which, IMO has been the Benchmark in the 1/8 nitro class the last 3 or 4 years). But I do think it will be a much more even scenario this year

Interesting thread. The designer of the 10SC 4x4 wasnt fired, he moved on to another job in the industry.

Forgot where I read it, but I thought ROAR didn't like the Shorty packs? Something about building cars around the shorty design?

After some thought, I'd would like to see them continue the 1 belt design (more of a dream really). Same layout as the XXX4, but instead of molded graphite tub, flat plate graphite and aluminum bulkheads. Maybe take the suspension geometry off the XX4?

OR...I'm imagining an Xray T3 '12-style chassis layout with longer arms. I think the Touring cars have achieved pretty good balance in their designs, and it wouldn't be hard to make the chassis perform for offroad.

We shall see....

i think i saw a post on here that they as in team losi is trying a 22 base 4x4

I am never ceased in amazement of what the public has to say.... Interesting thread indeed ... lmao gotta love rctech

The new 4WD rumors really took off again this week after Losi stated they were going to have a new announcement on Facebook. They did. It's a short course truck body.

The rumors first started flying when the 22 came out and everyone saw that the front steering setup was just like those on 4wd cars. I wonder if anyone actually noticed that this was the only way they could have inline steering yet still retain the bearings in the hubs?

At some point they'll release another 4wd car.

As the shorty's continue to gain acceptance I'd bet that this rule gets lifted. Now that Lipo brings size/shape flexibility it makes less and less sense to impose that limitation. Just a matter of time..

I don't think the hole in the caster has anything to do with the inline capability (which is the spindle). That and the caster blocks are a new part, not carried over from one of the other cars, strongly suggests that Losi does/did have an active 4wd platform project.

Oh okay. Is there any plans for a 4wd buggy?

Probably see a minimum size requirement on the size of the case.

All these tlr 4x4 threads are funny. Its like watching a documentary on if bigfoot exists or not. You watch a 2 hr special and at the end of it you don't know if he exists or not! Until we know for sure, ill keep reading the 4x4 rumor threads and watching my bigfoot documentaries. And I'm gonna call this phantom buggy that may or may not exist the tlr sasquatch!