Personally I think we are more likely to see a TLR 22SCT before we see a TLR 22 4x4.
Just my opinion because I know there has to be people working on an aftermarket chassis right now and I for one hope they are.

the xxx-sct is still a fairly new chassis compared to the xxx4 and works very well so idk because a new 4wd buggy im sure is in way higher demand from them then anything. but iether one is bound to happen sometime in the future as everything is progressing very fast these days :nod:

TLR Sasquatch. I love it!

I like my xx4

These threads are like herpes, just when you think they're gone....

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-10-buggy.html

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...4wd-buggy.html

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...4wd-buggy.html

And thats only going back 6 months.....

I love my xx4. But I'm going to be heated if they release a new short course before a new 4w buggy! I hear all these rumors that they are basing a new 4w off of the xx4 (which I think would be unbeatable!) But lord knows whats true. I'll be running the xx4 and see what tlr comes out with. At the rate TLR/Losi's been going with these new cars, it's going to be an awesome car

No Idea!
 

I dont have a clue what will come out when but i would love to see a TLR 4wd that has the driveline efficiency of the XXX4.
Add to that the balance and geometry (and unique tough look) of the XX4 to the innovation and build quality of the TLR22 and i feel that it will be a solid platform! My 2c!

Similarly to when the 22 was released, i think we will all be suprised if and when a new 4wd platform comes out. While there was a lot of speculation as to how the 22 would differ over the XXX platform, i know i was suprised to see what eventuated, particularly how solid the car was!

If nothing else, it gives us all plenty to talk about on these forums!!

+1

xx-4 susp + xxx-4 layout/drivetrain = x-factory X5.. but with a flat graphite plate chassis like the TRF501 instead of the Durga, right?

+1

i hav heard from someone that spoke to TLR at the Cactus the the plans for a new car hav been sent to the losi's makers in Taiwan and may see a new car in the new year (if the world is still here!:lol::lol:) so the car is on the market for the worlds! I was also told that it will be a shaft car!!!:weird:
lets see if he is right:D

I couldn't imagine it being a shaft car. At the Reedy race they said they were testing the xx4's now that drivetrain efficiency isn't an issue anymore due to battery and motor technology. I would suppose they were learning form that to help develop the next generation car. I had even heard dyno commenting on how poorly shaft drive cars accelerate and how under acceleration, the motor torque cause the car to not accelerate straight as well as influence the jumping characteristics. So, I don't see why they would then make a shaft drive car.

:weird: Really? Dyno said that?

"Testing a belt car now that drivetrain efficiency isn't an issue anymore?" A point A to B belt drive anything is more efficient from start until the belt no longer sees a load. Thus belt drives are not efficient at higher RPM due to "lashing" or harmonics.

Shaft drive cars don't accelerate as well due to a bit heavier drive train. Shafts, CVA's, couplers and the connecting components are all together heavier than a belt or two or ten. :)

With brushless motors we don't see the rotational forces that we use to with an armature full of copper. Do the center shaft weights play a roll in torque steer? They can. A properly engineered shaft drive drive train won't suffer from the ill effects of torque steer. :)

I heard the new 4wd buggy will be out in 2 weeks.

Whatever it is, I hope it's aluminum chassis, shaft drive, gear diffs, big bores, 12mm hexes and carbon towers.

I agree.... except for the gear diffs and shaft drive.

I bet it will have the ability to run both gear and ball diffs, that would be nice. I'll be honest, I really like my Durango, so if TLR did something similar I would be happy.

Sounds like a hint...

Most of the people out there are waiting for a brand new TLR 4WD. No one knows when it will be out, we are here and we are waiting for....

In the middle of these rumors, my XX4 WE is a still in shape and very competitive.:blush:

I can live with belts and ball diffs :)

ditto :)

I can only promise you one thing: you have bad info.

quick question, yes or no, is any info on this thread correct!!! (Don't worry, I wont tell anybody)

Hmmmmm.

I heard each wheel will independently be driven by four motors. The front suspension will have a mono shock and will be based on the 5-link JRX2. Of course I cannot confirm or deny these rumors.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: thats probably the funniest thing ive seen in awhile

Hey.. the 5-link suspension was awesome back in the day... especially when you went hard into tight 180's.... wait a min, no it wasn't! My bad!

BUT, my psychic did tell me that the new wheeler will have some gamechanging new diffs, not gear, not ball, but similar to the old hydra-drive design that uses an impeller and viscous fluid for power transfer.

hmmm.. thats a pretty good rumor!! hahaha

The diffs will use unicorn tears for fluid. Magical!

be really kool if it came with orange rims wouldn't it ?:ha:

Let me ask this. Would a true 1/10th eight be competitive? Would it work in this class?

I think its the awnser myself. It would have the potental to be much more durable, easier to work on, and could be better on blown out, big, 1/8 style tracks. I would perfer 10en (ten) based off the 8ight, over a typical delicate 1/10 design.

I wouldn't doubt it would be a variation of the 810.... only electric. that platform is amazing as a short course truck and would be probably be pretty competitive.

that means i just have to get the old model of 4WD

That's basically what a B44 or a Durango is (center/shaft drive, center diff replaced w/slipper). They get around pretty well.. A center diff probably wouldn't be good for 1/10, they require immediate power in a way that 1/8th doesn't.

ive seen that the xxx-4 g+ is basically no where to be found to be purchased so thats kinda a good sign i guess :lol::lol: hopefully they come out with on equick i love all the new stuff losi is comin out with :nod:

They are definitely coming out with one because horizon stopped distributing xxx4 g+ parts a few weeks ago, my guess would be they will debute it before the end of the year in time for Christmas and to give their drivers time to get used to it for worlds. Also it will not be a version of the 810. It would not be a contender to the carbon fiber b44.1 in any way whatsoever. It will be a ground up design that will be shaft driven so as to not be a xxx continuation.

Hmmm... yet they are still selling all the important xx-4 parts, including "belts"... Truly a sign for shaft drive.. Especially since Darren Bloomfield did only take 3rd place at the Euros with a xx4 WE & BB Shocks -Dex410's took 1st &2nd... b44.1 where?

truly, the 15yr old platform, is not a contender..:rolleyes:

I think he meant a car based on the 810 wouldn't be a contender, not the xx4. Anyone who has ever driven a XX4 know's it's the best handling 4wd buggy ever made

x100

Got my fingers crossed it's soon!