Carpet Off-road Thread
#842
Tech Master
Everyone I know struggles to get enough steering out of the WIDE wedge, certainly compared to the Schumacher LP cut-stagger in yellow. The UK team are working on setups for the Proline tires on carpet, bare with us .... we will get there.
#843
Clip of out 13.5 Stadium Truck class from our Fall Brawl. PDX RC UnderGround.
MOmo
MOmo
#844
Thats a good looking track!
#845
For buggy front, Schumacher Low Profile Cut Staggers on the front in yellow compound is pretty much the standard. At roughly $10 a pair they have great grip, last a reasonable amount of time, and offer predictable handling even when they wear. When you start to "push", replace 'em.
For buggy rear, I have tried Dboots Terrabyte, Schumacher Mini Pins, Pro Line Prizms, J Concepts Pin Downs, and Schumacher Cactus.
- The dboots Terrabyte B compound work great, and before there was a "carpet tire" this was the go-to. If you have a track where there are a few slick surfaces thrown in like MDF or fiber board, this is where this tire shines. It will handle the slick surfaces well and perform on the carpet. However you can literally wear this tire out in like 3-6 battery packs.
- The Mini Pins work great on carpet, and for a long time they were/are the standard, wear isn't so good, but better than the dBoots, and as they wear the rear loses its grip and becomes "loose" on gray ozite. They are a solid choice performance wise and they are inexpensive at roughly $12 pair. If you're new to carpet, and guys at your track are running these, definitely give them a shot.
- The Pin Downs Pink Compound were so last year, they are a good tire with good wear characteristics and will last. I used quite a few of these early last season, and they were hard to get for a while. However the down side of this tire is its very rectangular profile and it's very tall sidewall (when compared to the dBoots, Prizms, and Schumachers). These make for a unique handling characterisitcs, IMO they traction roll easier than some of the other tires. They are completely overpriced at $19 pair, they were $15 a pair last year with foams.
- The Prizms Z3 compound work well and wear even better, but they are like wet ice on any slick surface (MDF/fiber board) If your track is ALL carpet, then these are a great tire from cost/wear AND performance perspective. If guys are running these at your track, definitely worth a try.
- The Cactus in yellow, for gray ozite, probably the best I've tried right now, and they are what I am using. They have great wear characteristics, probably the best wear characteristics of all these tires. It might have something to do with the sheer number of "spikes" on the tread. As they wear they fade, but they do so in a polite manner, instead of being loose, they begin to skid slightly under super hard braking. New they offer solid reliable performance and low cost at roughly $12 a pair. They have a low, rounded profile which makes for a great handling tire.
Last edited by BigChris in PA; 11-07-2018 at 11:36 AM.
#846
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We made the transition to allowing Schumacher Cactus rear tires in yellow compound this year at a track I frequent for 2wd 17.5 Spec buggy. Front tire pretty much open as its a non-driving wheel. 4wd buggy by comparison we only allow slicks or similar clay compound or soft tires. Pretty much sauced with SXT 3.0.
From what we are seeing in comparison to what we had been running before, he cactus tires offer great bite but seem to drop off faster than say a slick tire that is starting to go. The trade off though is no saucing.
As for the Low Profile cut staggers they take away a lot of grip relative to a sauced clay slick here. Also as the surface can be more bumpy that what people are used to on carpet, on some jumps that go into a turn, they can dig into the carpet as you turn and some end up flipping. The slicks are more consistent in that regard.
All in all though, I think the carpet tires like cactus and low profile cut staggers are a good combo, just need to work on setup and driving styles a bit different versus than what we are used to for our surfaces.
Here are some vids of the last race, my vehicle in 4wd video position 2:
From what we are seeing in comparison to what we had been running before, he cactus tires offer great bite but seem to drop off faster than say a slick tire that is starting to go. The trade off though is no saucing.
As for the Low Profile cut staggers they take away a lot of grip relative to a sauced clay slick here. Also as the surface can be more bumpy that what people are used to on carpet, on some jumps that go into a turn, they can dig into the carpet as you turn and some end up flipping. The slicks are more consistent in that regard.
All in all though, I think the carpet tires like cactus and low profile cut staggers are a good combo, just need to work on setup and driving styles a bit different versus than what we are used to for our surfaces.
Here are some vids of the last race, my vehicle in 4wd video position 2:
#848
Tech Addict
Nice, a carpet Offroad Thread!
A decent on road track opened up a new section.
Had to convert my B6.1D to a B6.1 (missing rear shocks and towers) but damn the car is fun to drive. It's the box 6.1 setup with brass bulkhead...
A decent on road track opened up a new section.
Had to convert my B6.1D to a B6.1 (missing rear shocks and towers) but damn the car is fun to drive. It's the box 6.1 setup with brass bulkhead...
#849
Tech Initiate
TLR 22.0 4.0 vs AE B6.1
Wanting to start 17.5 buggy racing what is a good chassis for carpet?
#850
Tech Addict
I think all current cars from the top brands (Yokomo, Asso, XRay) are more than capable. Depents more on what people drive at the track (tips, tricks and parts) and your driving style.
I'd recomment the B6.1 - have the kit setup and a blast everytime I race it
I'd recomment the B6.1 - have the kit setup and a blast everytime I race it
#851
I agree all the newest cars are capable. I have a b6 that still performs great
#852
I have a rc10t5m. Running Schumacher Mini Pin back and stagger Front. What do you recommend to stop flipping over in turns ?
#853
Probably not tire related. You could try trimming the outer row on the mini pins. Adjustments are likely your best bet. Lower rideheight, use sway bars if available for your ride, mount the rear camber link lower on the shock tower. Stiffer springs? Not entirely sure about that last one. Worked for me outdoors. Tune out excess steering travel on your remote, if any. (I.e. my old Durango at full travel could turn upon itself).
#855
thanks for the hints . will try this