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bcrazy 01-05-2012 08:30 AM

[QUOTE=Chad Smith;10126774]

Originally Posted by bcrazy (Post 10125904)
The truck felt good with the saddle pack mod but I didn't get to race it and compare times from Saturday.

Where did you buy your scales?

Not sure, they are a friends scales. I can try to find out for you.

Makarrov 01-05-2012 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by AzFittin (Post 10125208)
Kind of a long shot here but are you running the STRC aluminum belt pulleys? I had a similar problem with my truck and tracked it down to the rear pulley having enough side to side motion that it would hit the inner slipper hub. Worth a look. I am not sure if the plastic pulleys would cause the same noises or not but who knows, you may get lucky.

Nah, I never bought the aluminum pulleys. I just replaced the plastic ones. It worth looking at the clearance though.


So the center diff works pretty well with the pro 4? I'm interested in picking one up I'm just concerned it would slip and I'd end up squaring off the ball bearings. Other than that it seems like a great idea.

Thomas P 01-05-2012 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Krio (Post 10127183)
If you are trying to help the weak bec, not really. It needs to go somewhere between the esc and the servo, so the easiest place to tap into the positive and negative wires is at the receiver. If you have a cheap plastic gear servo or one that is broken, cut the plug off to solder the positive and negative leads onto the capacitor. Make sure to take note of what wire coming out of the capacitor is positive and negative.


Thank you so much for this help :D..cant wait to test the truck next week..

CraigMBA 01-05-2012 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by cptxaggie (Post 10127237)
Hey guys, I am considering a SC10 4x4 for racing. Looking through some of the posts in this forum I am seeing a LOT of mods! What is the deal with this truck? Are these mods necessary? I am recovering from a couple of seasons struggling with a truck that required several mods to become competitive. I would rather not get into this situation again.

Six months ago, I'd agree with you, but the chassis has been developed now where it's competitive and durable for all users. This is bound to happen when the truck is all new, because no matter how much testing AE does, the factory can't debug a chassis as well as the market can. It took six months, but I have my truck working pretty good - thanks to the users on this forum.

With the exception of the saddle packs, the Mac The Knife slipper basket, the sway bars, the yellow springs, and the chassis brace, and some stick on weight, my truck is out of the box stock. If you want to use a 540 motor, you will need a fan for the motor. To me, that's not that much to add.


The other truck I am looking at is the SC10 FT which seems competitive out of the box.
I have one of those too, and it's just a dream to drive. It has weak parts too, namely the rear camber link plastic, the rear hub carrier bearings (too small), and the front chassis is prone to breakage without a brace.

Everything is a trade off.

MantisWorx 01-05-2012 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Makarrov (Post 10127269)
Nah, I never bought the aluminum pulleys. I just replaced the plastic ones. It worth looking at the clearance though.


So the center diff works pretty well with the pro 4? I'm interested in picking one up I'm just concerned it would slip and I'd end up squaring off the ball bearings. Other than that it seems like a great idea.

Why on earth would that happen??? Everything i design and sell is thouroghly tested by me , other pros as well as bashers. Your not going to square off carbide balls. Even if it slips it will do nothing. Worst case scenario you could groove the rings but they are replaceable. i have had the same rings and balls on my truck for months now and everyone knows i drive/race/test ALOT!!

Mizchief 01-05-2012 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by murky123 (Post 10126023)
can someone give a little setup advice for indoor carpet ?

My basic setup:
Front: yellow springs & sway 32wt shocks, 30k diff
Rear: blue springs & sway, 30wt shocks, 5k diff
Proline caliber sc 2.0 super soft tires on protrack wheels
Pin mod with garo's and basket

15/62 gearing on the pro 4 gives me enough low end power to make every jump from a stand still at the base.

I use the same basic setup outdoors as well with PL snipers

after the pin mod I have a little to much push and need to lower the front diff fluid (center diff is on the way, going down to 20k after that)

Once the calbers wear down a bit they provide just the right amout of traction for me to get pleny of forward bite, but sill slide around enough in turns to prevent traction rolls.

vito 01-05-2012 10:14 AM

sorry guys but theres two clucth baskets. what one do i need and from where and i dont use pay pal ?

Mizchief 01-05-2012 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Thomas P (Post 10126996)
Mate, that sounds superb, cuz the BEC on the Castle stuff aint so good..thats my experience..any idea what kind of Cap, what type and microfarad ?

I'm using the spectum rx cap, it's 4700 microfarad and 10v. Worked fine up until about a week ago when my mmp stopped letting the motor turn when running at 6.0v. got the bec on the way.

MantisWorx 01-05-2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mizchief (Post 10127705)
My basic setup:
Front: yellow springs & sway 32wt shocks, 30k diff
Rear: blue springs & sway, 30wt shocks, 5k diff
Proline caliber sc 2.0 super soft tires on protrack wheels
Pin mod with garo's and basket

15/62 gearing on the pro 4 gives me enough low end power to make every jump from a stand still at the base.

I use the same basic setup outdoors as well with PL snipers

after the pin mod I have a little to much push and need to lower the front diff fluid (center diff is on the way, going down to 20k after that)

Once the calbers wear down a bit they provide just the right amout of traction for me to get pleny of forward bite, but sill slide around enough in turns to prevent traction rolls.

its going to push like a snowplow with the center dif and 20k!! i have 10k now and am going down to 7 on my next build.

MantisWorx 01-05-2012 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by vito (Post 10127711)
sorry guys but theres two clucth baskets. what one do i need and from where and i dont use pay pal ?

If you send me a money order i will sell you a set of dual garodisc. Without paypal your going to have a hard time buying anywhere nowadays.

Mizchief 01-05-2012 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by cptxaggie (Post 10127237)
Hey guys, I am considering a SC10 4x4 for racing. Looking through some of the posts in this forum I am seeing a LOT of mods! What is the deal with this truck? Are these mods necessary? I am recovering from a couple of seasons struggling with a truck that required several mods to become competitive. I would rather not get into this situation again.

The other truck I am looking at is the SC10 FT which seems competitive out of the box.

Since your a fellow Georgian I won't give you the "Go use the search response :)" I'll probably be at hotshots RC either Friday or Monday night if you want to see it in action.

I think garodiscs are the cheapest and easiest way to fix the slipper, then the pin mod if you want true 4x4 handling (which will cost you the price of a good drill bit if you otherwise have the tools)

Good tires are always a must, and besides that I think you could hold your own given you have the skills from the races I've been to around GA.

If you trying to decide on 4wd vs. 2wd, you will have 2-3 times the number of competitors to race with on 2wd, but to me 4wd is more fun. I think that will change as this truck and other 4x4's get to be more popular.

Mizchief 01-05-2012 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 10127723)
its going to push like a snowplow with the center dif and 20k!! i have 10k now and am going down to 7 on my next build.

Thanks, I have 5k, 10k, 20k, and 30k bottles, do you know if you can mix 5k & 10k equal out to 7k? I'm not the best driver so I may go with 10k first to help me hold it in the sweepers at the 1/8 scale track.

Mizchief 01-05-2012 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 10127729)
If you send me a money order i will sell you a set of dual garodisc. Without paypal your going to have a hard time buying anywhere nowadays.

Yea and being a software developer, I can tell you that your much safer using paypal for any small outfit as they may not be handling your data as well as they should be (not aimed at you Manits, just general practice)

Krio 01-05-2012 10:34 AM

While I have been dialing my truck in since it came out, here are what I consider absolutely necessary to have a truck that can win against a decent field:
Slipper fix (pin it on slick tracks, add garodisks, get a clutch basket, or get the new center diff)
Swaybars
Adding weight to balance the car

Those three things will cost you less than $100

Here's what most people are finding to be very beneficial and you can add as you see fit/budget allows, but will probably be necessary to win at an upper level:
Chassis brace (Coyote carbon tube, exotec center chassis, etc. Just to keep belt tension more consistent)
Adding weight on rough tracks (not just to balance)
Saddle packs
RPM A-arms
Modded steering rack (like the rcshox.com ackbar)

As a final word, some might consider a chassis brace mandatory but from a durability standpoint, not a handling one.

vito 01-05-2012 10:35 AM

iam on a fix in come and i have a bill payee. i dont have free wheel of my money .:sweat::sweat:


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