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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
(Post 10123423)
They go on the front right? 4 mm sounds like a lot but what do I know.
BTW its gettin taken apart tonight and i plan on assembling it sat/sunday during the playoffs. |
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Great, now I have to worry about my tires grabbing too much. I had the same question, as far as the bigger swaybars allow less suspension travel and therefore roll more. Like you said, not questioning the people who say to do it, just questioning the science, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Steve737
(Post 10124216)
Great, now I have to worry about my tires grabbing too much. I had the same question, as far as the bigger swaybars allow less suspension travel and therefore roll more. Like you said, not questioning the people who say to do it, just questioning the science, I suppose.
The suspension is still doing what its supposed to but the sway bar helps the suspension/arms stay flat...if that makes since...ha when it rolls say to the right the left side of the sway bar keeps from going or making more resistence for it to roll over.. Unless Im wrong as well...lol |
Originally Posted by MantisWorx
(Post 10124121)
yours will have 5!!
BTW its gettin taken apart tonight and i plan on assembling it sat/sunday during the playoffs. 5?! Dang guess thing will be never flip and be on rails. :tire:;) |
Sway bars are actually called anti-roll bar. It is excessive body roll that causes traction rolling. The thicker the sway bar, the less body roll, consiquently, you generaly get less traction depending on track conditions.
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Originally Posted by Steve737
(Post 10124216)
Great, now I have to worry about my tires grabbing too much. I had the same question, as far as the bigger swaybars allow less suspension travel and therefore roll more. Like you said, not questioning the people who say to do it, just questioning the science, I suppose.
read this, click suspension and then go to page 7, it talks about sways. Pretty informative stuff about R/C suspension. Thanks to 20smoke. http://users.telenet.be/elvo/ |
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Originally Posted by symmetricon
(Post 10124289)
It is excessive grip that causes traction rolling.
If you have a tremendous amount of grip, such as running very sticky tires on a very high traction track, your car can do what we call a "traction roll". A traction roll is when the car flips over for apparently no reason during cornering. Sometimes the car is assisted by lightly touching a corner dot or another car while turning. Having too much traction and too much weight transfer causes this. The weight transfers so far that all of the weight is placed on the outside tires while the inside tires come off the ground. However, the outside tires do not loose their grip with the surface. If the weight continues to shift or is shifting so rapidly that the driver cannot correct, the car will traction roll. Obviously, having your car flip over every turn isn’t the fastest way around the track. |
Originally Posted by symmetricon
(Post 10124289)
Sway bars are actually called anti-roll bar. It is excessive body roll that causes traction rolling. The thicker the sway bar, the less body roll, consiquently, you generaly get less traction depending on track conditions.
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I dont feel I needed to be corrected. The body roll causes the traction.
From the hudy setup guide. Anti-roll bars are used to adjust the car’s side (lateral) traction. Anti-roll bars resist chassis roll and by doing so transfer wheel load from the inside wheel to the outside wheel. The stiffer the anti-roll bar, the more load is transferred from the inside wheel to the outside wheel. However, as the outside wheel is not able to convert all of the extra wheel load into extra grip, the sum of the grip of both wheels is actually reduced. This changes the balance of the car to the other axle. |
Originally Posted by symmetricon
(Post 10124439)
I dont feel I needed to be corrected. The body roll causes the traction.
Body roll is caused by weight transfer. Traction increases weight transfer, and is totally independent of body roll. Excessive weight transfer in combination with high grip causes traction roll. From your cite: From the hudy setup guide. Anti-roll bars are used to adjust the car’s side (lateral) traction. Anti-roll bars resist chassis roll and by doing so transfer wheel load from the inside wheel to the outside wheel. The stiffer the anti-roll bar, the more load is transferred from the inside wheel to the outside wheel. However, as the outside wheel is not able to convert all of the extra wheel load into extra grip, the sum of the grip of both wheels is actually reduced. This changes the balance of the car to the other axle. Which, if you think about it, makes sense with what I wrote earlier, and why you'd set the car up to have less mechanical grip when the racing surface grip comes up. |
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Try looseing the gear mesh. Mine did win tight.:smile:
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Ok I'm about to place my order!! Anything else I need besides...
1. Sc10 4x4 2. Tekin pro4 4000kv motor 3. 14,15,16 tooth pinions 4. Front and rear swaybar sets 5. Set of JC hex hazard wheels (already have indoor tires for now) |
Originally Posted by tom2tone
(Post 10124576)
Ok I'm about to place my order!! Anything else I need besides...
1. Sc10 4x4 2. Tekin pro4 4000kv motor 3. 14,15,16 tooth pinions 4. Front and rear swaybar sets 5. Set of JC hex hazard wheels (already have indoor tires for now) also you'll need an RX8 or MMP and a good front servo. I'm selling a bnip Hitec 7955TG. *shameless plug I know. |
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