SC10 4x4 Thread
#9931
Don't know how real the C rating is, but I can assure you that it has MUCH more punch that my old IP 5000mAh 25C. It gets nowhere as hot, too. And it can be charged safely up to 8C.
I'm about to order a 5100mAh 65-130C pack though, just to have as a spare, since all my other packs are sticks.
#9932
1) Fill the shocks with oil
2) Use the seal provided with your kit and install it in the shock cap
3) Complete the fill to just over full on the shock body.
4) With the bleed screws removed, install the cap on the shock body
5) Now slowly compress the shock completely. Shock oil should leak out of the bleed hole. Maintain the shock compressed
6) With the shock compressed, install the bleed screw with seal.
7) Actuate the shock to check for air and ensure there is no rebound.
This is what I do and it works great.
#9933
ok thanks ill give it a go then
but does that give more smooth shock action then if they wher whit bladders??
but does that give more smooth shock action then if they wher whit bladders??
#9934
Tech Master
iTrader: (4)
I recently smoked my mmp and had to run 4-5 race days w/ the sidewinder. It worked fine. Just put the fan or a fan on the esc. I swear the thing barely got over 100* w/ the fan on all the time.
So, Yes.
#9935
Tech Master
iTrader: (4)
1.the tensioners, make sure the lip is intact on both. and that roll freely.
2.Make sure the front pulley is seating properly on the flat plate deal w/ the big square on it. I'd bet this is your problem, if it doesn't sit flat you'll have too much space and the belt could get let loose.
3. Make sure your using the 20t front pulley, at least for this experiment.
The tensioner should effectively pin the belt in place. There's not enough room for the belt to get between them, normally.
I'd take off, the all the outside/battery side,belt covers.
Check to see if the front pulley is seated properly.
Tighten clicker nut all the way.
Set the tensioners to the stock settings. then run it in the drive or street and see if you can see the problem happening. Or at least where it's starting.
Or on the bench, sounds like it could happen there to.
I bet your front pulley is seated, it's not easy to see and depending which end you put the belt on last can be hard to get it clocked properly.
#9936
Tech Adept
iTrader: (50)
Turnigy Nanotech 4850mAh 50-100C.
Don't know how real the C rating is, but I can assure you that it has MUCH more punch that my old IP 5000mAh 25C. It gets nowhere as hot, too. And it can be charged safely up to 8C.
I'm about to order a 5100mAh 65-130C pack though, just to have as a spare, since all my other packs are sticks.
Don't know how real the C rating is, but I can assure you that it has MUCH more punch that my old IP 5000mAh 25C. It gets nowhere as hot, too. And it can be charged safely up to 8C.
I'm about to order a 5100mAh 65-130C pack though, just to have as a spare, since all my other packs are sticks.
One thing to remembe when you order your 5100 packs is that if you switch between the 2 the balence of the truck will change. switching between my venom and my NanoTech changes the feel of the truck alot more than I expected.
#9937
I have the sidewinder in mine with the fan on the esc and another fan on the motor. I don't even think I need the fan on the motor because it was like 116 after a few minutes of running, which is cold for a motor. The sidewinder will be fine as long as you have a fan on it and your motor is geared correctly (14-16 pinion, and 32pitch 62tooth spur). It also depends on the temp outside and how long you will be running. Good luck!
#9938
RCshoks and Slpper setups
I've acquired some RCShoxs, MTK basket and the Garo pads. Just wondering what setup people have found to be the most successful using the items above.
Rcshoxs: Bladder or emulsion? Same shock weight shock oil (30/25)?
Slipper: Running on low traction, 1/8th scale outdoor track, with pin mod. Do you think 3 Garo disks too much? Rather not do any damage, but I'd like some consistent performance.
Thanks
Rcshoxs: Bladder or emulsion? Same shock weight shock oil (30/25)?
Slipper: Running on low traction, 1/8th scale outdoor track, with pin mod. Do you think 3 Garo disks too much? Rather not do any damage, but I'd like some consistent performance.
Thanks
Last edited by Redbeard; 11-01-2011 at 01:45 PM.
#9939
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
I've acquired some RCShoxs, MTK basket and the Garo pads. Just wondering what setup people have found to be the most successful using the items above.
Rcshoxs: Bladder or emulsion? Same shock weight shock oil (30/25)?
I prefer emulsion. How rough is the track? I recently had to go up in oil because the track I have been running on is blown out, and to clear some of the big jumps without getting chassis slap, causing nasty rear end pop, required me to go up drastically. 40wt front, 35wt rear.
Slipper: Running on low traction, 1/8th scale outdoor track, with pin mod. Do you think 3 Garo disks too much? Rather not do any damage, but I'd like some consistent performance.
I would try just the two without the clutch basket. Adjust the slipper as needed. Im running about 3mm fro flush.
Thanks
Rcshoxs: Bladder or emulsion? Same shock weight shock oil (30/25)?
I prefer emulsion. How rough is the track? I recently had to go up in oil because the track I have been running on is blown out, and to clear some of the big jumps without getting chassis slap, causing nasty rear end pop, required me to go up drastically. 40wt front, 35wt rear.
Slipper: Running on low traction, 1/8th scale outdoor track, with pin mod. Do you think 3 Garo disks too much? Rather not do any damage, but I'd like some consistent performance.
I would try just the two without the clutch basket. Adjust the slipper as needed. Im running about 3mm fro flush.
Thanks
#9940
I also run those NanoTech 4850mah 50-100C saddles. They have alot more punch than my Venom 4800 30C saddles.
One thing to remembe when you order your 5100 packs is that if you switch between the 2 the balence of the truck will change. switching between my venom and my NanoTech changes the feel of the truck alot more than I expected.
One thing to remembe when you order your 5100 packs is that if you switch between the 2 the balence of the truck will change. switching between my venom and my NanoTech changes the feel of the truck alot more than I expected.
Truth is those cells can't be beaten in price/performance. Awesome punch, decent quality and a ridiculous RRP.
#9941
Associated follow up...
Letter to Associated:
I don’t know about others who have called Team Associated lately and who they been talking to, but after having been a loyal Team Associated vehicle owner of one sort or another over the past fifteen years I have to sayI become increasingly dissatisfied with your products, in particular the SC104x4.
I find it hard to believe that when I called today seeking warranty support for the substandard components/parts that I (and plenty of others)have had to contend with, I spoke with Chris in product support and I explained how the slipper assembly overheated, essentially melting things like the slipper pad to the spur and heating the spring to the point it became discolored and useless (despite being “locked down”). He informed me would only be replacing few specific components ( implying I should happy with that) and that the “best solution” was to purchase the ClutchBasket. Really? I have no doubt it works but should I have to be directed to a third party manufacturer to resolve an issue with your product design? You should at least be willing to replace the slipper components when it’s been clearly identified as a week point in the drivetrain. I also mentioned the “bent”front/rear A arms and I was informed that these would not be replaced under warranty because in his opinion this was caused by the vehicle sitting too long on its wheels… and they’re made “soft”on purpose to avoid breakage. Again…really? So just like the substandard slipper design I now have to consider paying for RPM A arms (or buy AE’s) to compensate for poorly manufactured/designed AE A arms. All of this after I received the truck minus the entire shock bag and having to wait months for replacements to be sent.
I want to believe this is an isolated experience and that if management knew about this they would attempt to make it right but I’m not entirely convinced. I hope others have avoided these sort of problems and havereceived better service and support but I know this has certainly discouraged me from commenting positively about my Team Associated experience.
I don’t know about others who have called Team Associated lately and who they been talking to, but after having been a loyal Team Associated vehicle owner of one sort or another over the past fifteen years I have to sayI become increasingly dissatisfied with your products, in particular the SC104x4.
I find it hard to believe that when I called today seeking warranty support for the substandard components/parts that I (and plenty of others)have had to contend with, I spoke with Chris in product support and I explained how the slipper assembly overheated, essentially melting things like the slipper pad to the spur and heating the spring to the point it became discolored and useless (despite being “locked down”). He informed me would only be replacing few specific components ( implying I should happy with that) and that the “best solution” was to purchase the ClutchBasket. Really? I have no doubt it works but should I have to be directed to a third party manufacturer to resolve an issue with your product design? You should at least be willing to replace the slipper components when it’s been clearly identified as a week point in the drivetrain. I also mentioned the “bent”front/rear A arms and I was informed that these would not be replaced under warranty because in his opinion this was caused by the vehicle sitting too long on its wheels… and they’re made “soft”on purpose to avoid breakage. Again…really? So just like the substandard slipper design I now have to consider paying for RPM A arms (or buy AE’s) to compensate for poorly manufactured/designed AE A arms. All of this after I received the truck minus the entire shock bag and having to wait months for replacements to be sent.
I want to believe this is an isolated experience and that if management knew about this they would attempt to make it right but I’m not entirely convinced. I hope others have avoided these sort of problems and havereceived better service and support but I know this has certainly discouraged me from commenting positively about my Team Associated experience.
Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns, we appreciate hearing from our customers, it helps us to better our products and support for the future.
I will start by addressing the issue with the arms bending. I agree with you, it is unfortunate that the arms bend over time like they do. My truck has done the same thing but, as Chris pointed out, you can stop a great deal of it by storing the vehicle off the tires. I have tested this myself and it does work. Now, as I said, I agree it is unfortunate that the arms do this. Because of this, I am happy to send you a new set of front and rear arms but, I must admit, this will happen again.
So much of the way a vehicle drives, handles, jumps, crashes, etc is determined by the type of plastic used. It’s a constant race to handle the needs of both strength and performance.
In regards to the slipper, what we have found is that by de-coupling the slipper we have effectively cut the slip surface on the slipper pads in half. We have tested extensively and have a solution but, it will not be available for a while. What we have been doing is providing our customers with a solution, notifying them of a wonderful product to help them get their Team Associated vehicle back up to speed. What is needed is multiple slipper pads like that of a motorcycle or dragster. The clutch basket Chris was telling you about is that solution. Yes, it would be nice to get all your aftermarket parts from the manufacturer of the brand of vehicle you drive, in fact we would prefer you by all your parts from us but, at the end of the day we want to make sure your experience with your vehicle is a good one. Sometimes that means we might have to suggest a aftermarket solution.
You are correct, others have had the issue and have contacted AE in regards to it however, you are the first to be dissatisfied with the assistance given. Which I understand, I can’t say I wouldn’t feel the same way you do if I were in your position.
What I can do is send you some front and rear arms, as mentioned above and I can also send you a couple sets of slipper pads.
I use the slipper basket Chris mentioned to you and it works fantastic. It’s very cool after market piece for the 4x4.
Please send me your sipping information and I will get the parts sent to you right away.
Once again, sorry for the trouble you have been having, I hope together we can get you back up and running.
#9943
Yea orded new belt, alumunim tensioners, and new belt covers,so hopefuly all new hardware equals fixed. Also bought chassis brace and new moter mount with third tensioner on it. It would be cool if someone could make belt covers that was also chassis brace!!!!! So if ur on here tonight mantis lol