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ryanpatrickgore 01-02-2013 03:49 PM

You know there's nothing left to hopup when George has already done the shocks and there nothing left but to add a 4th slipper pad! ;)

Wild Cherry 01-02-2013 05:04 PM

Ryan,fair to say thats

two more improvements from us guys on this thread....:cool:

Prostreet314 01-02-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by rippen (Post 11624385)
Has anyone used the TiNi ball studs yet.

Yep my ft truck had every factory team part on it and worked awesome. Never had a prob. Bending mine with the 8mm mod. Plus they look killer

CraigMBA 01-03-2013 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore (Post 11614802)
He has answered hundreds of teck q's in here an helped countless people.

Never mistake activity for achievement.
- John Wooden

If someone asks you for directions, and you point them in the wrong way, did you really help them?

- CLD

imbsbiaoy 01-03-2013 09:10 AM

I know that the 8mm mod has been discussed 100+ times. However, when reviewing all of the information I am still confused as to what it actually does. Some say that it increases traction, while others say that it stops traction rolling. That sounds contradictory. I am hoping that someone with a firm grasp on what the mod actually accomplishes... please no flaming as I have read and searched this forum and many others. I have found so much information that contradicts that I am confused:confused: I am not looking for more rear traction, rather I am trying to stop traction rolling. I am running maifield's setup. I think may just go with stiffer rear sway bar.

Wild Cherry 01-03-2013 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 11627280)
Never mistake activity for achievement.
- John Wooden

If someone asks you for directions, and you point them in the wrong way, did you really help them?

- CLD

I try my best to help & be fun ....

All I seen you bring to this thread is more crap like your last post above ....:nod:

Wild Cherry 01-03-2013 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by imbsbiaoy (Post 11627568)
I know that the 8mm mod has been discussed 100+ times. However, when reviewing all of the information I am still confused as to what it actually does. Some say that it increases traction, while others say that it stops traction rolling. That sounds contradictory. I am hoping that someone with a firm grasp on what the mod actually accomplishes... please no flaming as I have read and searched this forum and many others. I have found so much information that contradicts that I am confused:confused: I am not looking for more rear traction, rather I am trying to stop traction rolling. I am running maifield's setup. I think may just go with stiffer rear sway bar.


8mm rear hub mod makes for less traction & less body roll...
This is what BK told my team mates & me ...

Allows the truck to slide a little instead of tipping over in sharp corners or sweepers ....


tip: Also control traction rolling by using a lower ride height. ( 19mm <> 20mm)

Maybe try yellow front sway bar & blue rear ....

fq06 01-03-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by imbsbiaoy (Post 11627568)
I know that the 8mm mod has been discussed 100+ times. However, when reviewing all of the information I am still confused as to what it actually does. Some say that it increases traction, while others say that it stops traction rolling. That sounds contradictory. I am hoping that someone with a firm grasp on what the mod actually accomplishes... please no flaming as I have read and searched this forum and many others. I have found so much information that contradicts that I am confused:confused: I am not looking for more rear traction, rather I am trying to stop traction rolling. I am running maifield's setup. I think may just go with stiffer rear sway bar.

Tons of conflicting info on that. Best I've heard was that it doesn't really change the roll center as much as it changes the bind in the geometry or upper link.

Like Cain said, best thing to do is try it yourself and see if it fits your style. You can research it for so long before having a definitive understanding that you may have another truck by then :lol:

Wild Cherry 01-03-2013 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 11627643)
Tons of conflicting info on that.

Bk created the Mod , so I don't there is really any conflicting info if you accept his word ......

imbsbiaoy 01-03-2013 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11627622)
8mm rear hub mod makes for less traction & less body roll...
This is what BK told my team mates & me ...

Allows the truck to slide a little instead of tipping over in sharp corners or sweepers ....


tip: Also control traction rolling by using a lower ride height. ( 19mm <> 20mm)

Maybe try yellow front sway bar & blue rear ....

Sweet, ty for the quick responses guys!

When you are measuring ride height, are you guys measuring from the flat portion of the chassis where the center section meets the front and rear or directly under the arms?

Cain 01-03-2013 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11627782)
Bk created the Mod , so I don't there is really any conflicting info if you accept his word ......

Not an issue of accepting his word ...

I gues I am not sure why you don't accept the AE engineer (assuming that was what he was or at some level sufficient to state what effects the mod does) who when questioned about it seemed to differ in opinion than what you are stating.

So, in short, what should the poster do?

TRY THE MOD. And when you try it, make sure and note what conditions you were running on and what you experienced. Me, I tried it on loose conditions, I gained some traction. Raising the inner ball stud with the mod did basically the same as without it, it took away traction so the rear could drift. This is what I did (without the mod) earlier in the year on carpet when before, I was flipping the vehicle.

Worse case scenario, you are out about $10 to try the cheap version of the mod but at least you know if it works for you.


Originally Posted by imbsbiaoy (Post 11627568)
I am not looking for more rear traction, rather I am trying to stop traction rolling. I am running maifield's setup. I think may just go with stiffer rear sway bar.

For me, raising the inner ball stud height made the biggest difference in stopping traction rolling. This is on high traction carpet surface. I went to about 5mm on the rear on one track. 7mm on another as the traction was even greater. To get better drift on the front end I also went up on inner ball stud height their too, but the main determine factory to stop traction rolling was the rear ballstud height.

Wild Cherry 01-03-2013 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by imbsbiaoy (Post 11627784)
Sweet, ty for the quick responses guys!

When you are measuring ride height, are you guys measuring from the flat portion of the chassis where the center section meets the front and rear or directly under the arms?


Yes
Measure ride height from the front & back flat sections of middle chassis plate.


Welcome to the thread .....:)

dominick i. 01-03-2013 12:31 PM

I've used that setup with the exotek hubs and it did change the behavior of the car. our clay track back east changes quite a bit and i havent seen or experienced any traction rolling (yet). I personally like 2mm on the hub and 2mm on the ball stud. But I guess it's personal preference.

I did enjoy besting the throngs of losi scte's at the last race i attended. I've grown to now enjoy and understand my 4x4 sc10.

CraigMBA 01-03-2013 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11627579)
I try my best to help & be fun ....

http://www.douglaserice.com/wp-conte...-is-No-Try.jpg


All I seen you bring to this thread is more crap like your last post above ....:nod:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/27899843.jpg

Tell me again how roll centers are like cardboard boxes. I love that one.

CraigMBA 01-03-2013 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by imbsbiaoy (Post 11627568)
I know that the 8mm mod has been discussed 100+ times. However, when reviewing all of the information I am still confused as to what it actually does. Some say that it increases traction, while others say that it stops traction rolling. That sounds contradictory. I am hoping that someone with a firm grasp on what the mod actually accomplishes... please no flaming as I have read and searched this forum and many others. I have found so much information that contradicts that I am confused:confused: I am not looking for more rear traction, rather I am trying to stop traction rolling. I am running maifield's setup. I think may just go with stiffer rear sway bar.

Your conclusion re: contradictry is correct. Further, you might find this post useful.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/10644834-post22094.html


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