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heavyjeffd 10-22-2012 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by SC Shaun (Post 11357022)
Guys are stumbling trying to figure it out, but you're right. It's on it's way up.

It dominated at the SC Showdown finals. It was visibly very very good on the track. The drivers seemed to struggle a lot less.

SC Shaun 10-23-2012 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by heavyjeffd (Post 11357327)
It dominated at the SC Showdown finals. It was visibly very very good on the track. The drivers seemed to struggle a lot less.

Ah. our locals are still chasing it, but seemed to be enjoying the "struggle" I refered to.

Prostreet314 10-23-2012 01:26 AM

I love my sc10 4x4. I enjoy working on it, tuning it and running it. Even if I'm not winning it doesn't matter, the pleasure is in the challenge getting it right and driving your heart out.

Prostreet314 10-23-2012 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 11356546)
So my AE is on the auction block, after wheeling my mugen conversion this truck will be collecting dust on the shelf so I might as well off it.

Every hopup you could throw at it, complete strc catalog (except shock body & adj collar). Hard ano shock bodies, ti-ni everything (new), shiny bones & light weight outdrives. C-Diff & 2 stg pistons, rpm arms, all new Avis rev bearings and another complete set of AE bearings, T-Bone bumpers... list is long. Tons of spares too. Fresh +3mm hazards with gold bar codes and another set of fresh blockades.

Just did a complete tear down and bottom up refresh, it's pretty much a brand new truck. About half a night of practice on the truck.

How much should I list it for? I don't want to start too high and not sell it, but then again, I don't want to give it away either... I just spent about $150 on the refresh.

Help pricing this would be appreciated:D

Honestly, want you would get for the roller together is way less than if you were to put the truck completely back to stock, sell it for 150 and then sell off all the upgrades separately starting at 65% of what you paid for them. You will get the most return possible. If you leave it together with all the upgrades you'll be fortunate to get more than 300 for it. Just my opinion...

Prostreet314 10-23-2012 01:49 AM

The whole point of the 3 piece chassis was to allow a worn section of the chassis to be replaced at a Lower cost than buying a whole chassis.

And yes you can "tune" chassis flex by design. Just as in racing karts have inserts or different thickness cross brace to allow the kart to have more or less grip and steering. They also can predict by design the flex points depending on the weight of the drive and postion of the seat. I know this as I have experience in kart racing. It's how we tuned the karts "suspension" so to speak.

Prostreet314 10-23-2012 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by TXRC8racer (Post 11353093)
Of course I want the most out of my truck in ha handling and traction to the ground. How would y'all prioritize the mods to the truck as far as handling and traction on a med to high bite clay track? I just don't know where to start first to see the biggest results..


I run on a medium to high bite clay track as well. As for traction I would get:

1- fast laps clutch basket
http://www.fastlapproducts.net/Products.html
2- rcshox garo disc set
http://www.rcshox.com/associated-dual-garodisc-sc1044/
3- exotek front locker
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4...-front-clutch/
4- track star shock o-rings and shock snot.
http://www.trackstarrc.com/trackstar...mart&Itemid=64
http://www.trackstarrc.com/trackstar...mart&Itemid=64

As for steering:

1- M2C rear toe block
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...e-Block-System
2- Factory team Ackerman bar
http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...1181&x=10&y=10
3- exotek or hot racing rear hubs
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4-rear-hub-set/
http://www.hot-racing.com/index.cgi?...SCF22G01;c=617
If you are looking for a more stable, better planted and better handling truck, I would run:

1- Exotek chassis
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4-lcg-alloy-chassis/
With the saddle pack mount:
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4...or-exotek-lcg/

There are a few other mods I personally run but some here would contest their performance benefits, although I feel they do through personal experience.

SC Shaun 10-23-2012 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by Prostreet314 (Post 11357493)

And yes you can "tune" chassis flex by design. Just as in racing karts have inserts or different thickness cross brace to allow the kart to have more or less grip and steering. They also can predict by design the flex points depending on the weight of the drive and postion of the seat. I know this as I have experience in kart racing. It's how we tuned the karts "suspension" so to speak.

On this platform, you can have fun with that. :lol:

(there's a reason that Losi and Kyosho have an AL chassis now.)

TXRC8racer 10-23-2012 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Prostreet314 (Post 11357523)
I run on a medium to high bite clay track as well. As for traction I would get:

1- fast laps clutch basket
http://www.fastlapproducts.net/Products.html
2- rcshox garo disc set
http://www.rcshox.com/associated-dual-garodisc-sc1044/
3- exotek front locker
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4...-front-clutch/
4- track star shock o-rings and shock snot.
http://www.trackstarrc.com/trackstar...mart&Itemid=64
http://www.trackstarrc.com/trackstar...mart&Itemid=64

As for steering:

1- M2C rear toe block
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...e-Block-System
2- Factory team Ackerman bar
http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...1181&x=10&y=10
3- exotek or hot racing rear hubs
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4-rear-hub-set/
http://www.hot-racing.com/index.cgi?...SCF22G01;c=617
If you are looking for a more stable, better planted and better handling truck, I would run:

1- Exotek chassis
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4-lcg-alloy-chassis/
With the saddle pack mount:
http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4...or-exotek-lcg/

There are a few other mods I personally run but some here would contest their performance benefits, although I feel they do through personal experience.

Thanks for all the info.!
I also just bought the front and rear sway bar kit.

keddy 10-23-2012 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by njnewc (Post 11352372)
Great suggestion. I will put 2 holes in each corner for weights. Once I get it all drawn up on the computer I will post some pics.

I think it would be cool to see a deep pocket for saddle packs to fit into, it would eliminate the need for extra parts, and lower the CG even more.

9turn 10-23-2012 06:37 AM

I think associated got it right I just think you things the chassis they're wrong like the brace it's just as competitive against Lucy if you tune it right

Cain 10-23-2012 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11357079)

Who's the Sc4x4 National champ guy ?;)

What surface was that on again? Thats right, not the one people have been hunting for a setup for that is proven with an actual win.

Its great AE got the win, but something all of us should keep in mind is that the problems we are still trying to address with the vehicle in conditions that AE hasn't address are still there.

An example I can recall was when 2wd gas ST was still running, AE had the wins, but go to most local tracks before the GT2 came out and it was darn near a losi spec class. For regular guys who wanted an out of the box car that just simply worked on the conditions they were seeing, the losi even in RTR form was the hot ticket. Didn't change the fact that AE had the wins, but at the variety of tracks I attended in CT and out here, the losi seemed to have the actual purchases.

Unlike some others though, I still have faith AE will do SOMETHING to fix the issue those of us who run on loose surfaces need, well, fixing. But it will take AE running the vehicle by its top guys and getting a setup out there for the conditions we need one for (not just running it where it already is known to shine). I think with that and whatever parts they make to help address those needs, you will see a turn around in opinions on the vehicle on these conditions.


Originally Posted by SC Shaun (Post 11357089)
End of the day, it comes to the Club Racing around the country that decides a Car's effectiveness and not a sponsored driver.

+1 . But I personally believe we need those sponsored drivers (the top ones) who can spend the time coming up with setups to well, get us those setups we need and any parts needed to get the vehicle on point.


Originally Posted by Prostreet314 (Post 11357488)
Honestly, want you would get for the roller together is way less than if you were to put the truck completely back to stock, sell it for 150 and then sell off all the upgrades separately starting at 65% of what you paid for them. You will get the most return possible. If you leave it together with all the upgrades you'll be fortunate to get more than 300 for it. Just my opinion...

Market may not even be that hot. Seen a lot of SC10 4x4s going for less than that with upgrades beyond a stock one.

Heck, before I sold the team one I had, I thought of just keeping it to make an SCB 4x4 buggy of sorts. Could of ran it with the 1/8 scales lol. More I think about it, may have not been a bad idea.

Jordan Anderson 10-23-2012 08:15 AM

http://www.teamassociated.com/cars_a...oLite_4x4/RTR/

Interesting...

CraigMBA 10-23-2012 08:25 AM

Game over.

keddy 10-23-2012 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jordan Anderson (Post 11358352)


Looks entry level. And I can't see that design being turned into a FT model.

Jordan Anderson 10-23-2012 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 11358392)
Game over.

:nod:


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