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fq06 07-18-2012 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 10990493)
I had an airtrinocs m8 and sold it for a 2.4 ghz radio. I wont say which one

Spectrum :ha::lol::D:p:sneaky:

Wildcat1971 07-18-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 10990584)
what's your expo at?

Try zero and see if that fixes your issue and then add expo to your liking. You really shouldn't be over 20% max though. Especially if you have a curve built into your esc on top of expo... oh man.

Edit: DR is travel adjustment... steering only. No effect on expo. But expo is steering and throttle.

I dont have expo set. its linear. I put DR back to 100% to see if it chaged, it did not affect the throttle, but ........ the truck was impossible to drive at 100%. I will stay between 50-60% DR.

Wildcat1971 07-18-2012 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 10990653)
Spectrum :ha::lol::D:p:sneaky:

lol, not a spectrum.

Wildcat1971 07-18-2012 07:21 PM

Well, I will probably try to swap my receiver next. I ran on the street for 5 mins. Came of at 115 motor temp. 115 esc temp, 95 battery and 100 on the esc wires. The chassis was 96 deg is anyone cares, lol. Its hot here in AZ. Chassis was hotter than the battery, lol.

dragginyota 07-18-2012 11:51 PM

Newbie advice needed
 
Tuning advice needed! I'll explain what i have and what the truck is doing! I got this 4x4 used and have now ran around 6 packs through it to get used to the truck and tell what exactly it is doing handling wise.

SC10 with FT upgrades running Caliber tires soft in rear super soft up front, Blue springs front & rear, 35wt oil front 30wt rear, blue sway bars. i have no idea on what diff fluid and running Tekin RX8 with pro 4 4000 motor.

After getting used to the truck and seeing the same problem each run the ass end is way loose! There are so many things to adjust on these 4x4's i dont know what to adjust first to fix a loose condition on a 4x4 SC.

Any advice would help and yes i have searched and searched this forum with no luck!

Jake S 07-19-2012 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by dragginyota (Post 10991542)
SC10 with FT upgrades running Caliber tires soft in rear super soft up front, Blue springs front & rear, 35wt oil front 30wt rear, blue sway bars. i have no idea on what diff fluid and running Tekin RX8 with pro 4 4000 motor.

switch the tires, SS in the rear, and soft in the front to start.

if that does not help enough, check your diffs and put in new fluid, 20k front 7k rear seems great.

RossNZ 07-19-2012 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by dragginyota (Post 10991542)
Tuning advice needed! I'll explain what i have and what the truck is doing! I got this 4x4 used and have now ran around 6 packs through it to get used to the truck and tell what exactly it is doing handling wise.

SC10 with FT upgrades running Caliber tires soft in rear super soft up front, Blue springs front & rear, 35wt oil front 30wt rear, blue sway bars. i have no idea on what diff fluid and running Tekin RX8 with pro 4 4000 motor.

After getting used to the truck and seeing the same problem each run the ass end is way loose! There are so many things to adjust on these 4x4's i dont know what to adjust first to fix a loose condition on a 4x4 SC.

Any advice would help and yes i have searched and searched this forum with no luck!

Hmm, there's lots of things to try to fix this with the SC4X4, problem is when you "fix" it, the truck is to slow against other trucks, I would not advise any serous racer, and by that I mean who really likes to win, to buy this truck for loose outdoor tracks, the best mod, get a Losi.

janga 07-19-2012 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 10990758)
lol, not a spectrum.

Flysky?:lol::lol::ha::ha:

dragginyota 07-19-2012 03:37 AM

Support
 

Originally Posted by RossNZ (Post 10991561)
Hmm, there's lots of things to try to fix this with the SC4X4, problem is when you "fix" it, the truck is to slow against other trucks, I would not advise any serous racer, and by that I mean who really likes to win, to buy this truck for loose outdoor tracks, the best mod, get a Losi.

So if im understanding your advice is to sell my SC10 and buy a Losi.....

And why do i not see any support on this thread from one of the Associated team drivers?

Eaglesrx 07-19-2012 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by RossNZ (Post 10991561)
Hmm, there's lots of things to try to fix this with the SC4X4, problem is when you "fix" it, the truck is to slow against other trucks, I would not advise any serous racer, and by that I mean who really likes to win, to buy this truck for loose outdoor tracks, the best mod, get a Losi.

not sure if this was a loose track. But, it was outdoors on dirt. Cameron kellogg, who's on this thread can give better info. than me.

but, the winner on this track in 4x4 sct drove an sc10 4x4. I guess he's not a serious racer. http://www.teamassociated.com/news/r...rse_Nationals/

here's the video. Big outdoor track that a losi should theoretically dominate, especially for "serious" drivers at a short course nationals race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzz0YHWs8dc

the losi's a good outdoor truck and many would argue that it's easier to drive outdoors. But, the sc10 4x4, can be competitive outdoors, as evidenced above once tuned. I'm sure there's some races that I'm missing. I guess a lot of the most recent short course races are indoors (short course showdown, etc), which the sc10 4x4 performs very well.

Eaglesrx 07-19-2012 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by dragginyota (Post 10991829)
So if im understanding your advice is to sell my SC10 and buy a Losi.....

And why do i not see any support on this thread from one of the Associated team drivers?

while I've never seen maifield or cavalieri chime in on this thread, there are a lot of good, sponsored drivers and guys who are great at tuning on this thread. I don't think mike truhe and dakotah phend are frequently chiming in on the losi scte thread. I think that would be above and beyond for any pro driver.

I will say that associated has a great section for setup sheets that are for any type of track. They're definitely good starting points for setup: http://www.teamassociated.com/cars_a...anuals_setups/

Eaglesrx 07-19-2012 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by dragginyota (Post 10991542)
Tuning advice needed! I'll explain what i have and what the truck is doing! I got this 4x4 used and have now ran around 6 packs through it to get used to the truck and tell what exactly it is doing handling wise.

SC10 with FT upgrades running Caliber tires soft in rear super soft up front, Blue springs front & rear, 35wt oil front 30wt rear, blue sway bars. i have no idea on what diff fluid and running Tekin RX8 with pro 4 4000 motor.

After getting used to the truck and seeing the same problem each run the ass end is way loose! There are so many things to adjust on these 4x4's i dont know what to adjust first to fix a loose condition on a 4x4 SC.

Any advice would help and yes i have searched and searched this forum with no luck!

the search function is not very efficient on rctech. but, with the right search terms, you can find some very valuable information.

I'll preface that there are a lot of other, more experienced and better drivers than me that can provide better tech advice than me. However, I'll give my 2 cents.

a lot of the guys will say rcshox center diff mod helps on loose tracks over the standard slipper (or possibly even the FT vts slipper). go to the rcshox thread and read up on it. I've installed it and my truck drives a lot better (indoor or out). Here's a video of, I believe one of the rcshox employees driving overly aggressive on loose dirt and it still had good grip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlWBzWNjkE

There's some debate here, but the exotek chassis can help lower the center of gravity and keep the truck more planted, especially outdoors.

Putting the front springs in the rear (some guys put blue fronts in the rear) will make the truck jump better.

Hope this helps.

Wildcat1971 07-19-2012 07:02 AM

Most would admit that out of the box this is not the easiest truck to drive. But it is pretty sturdy and CAN be tuned. I was on the losi thread last night speed reading 1000+ posts and lol. Although the losi is easier to drive most people spend $330 trying to keep it from falling apart. You probably saying what mine is perfect, whatever. lol. I said most not all. The TLR kit is $129, better chassis $100, other upgraded suspension pieces $50 -$100. Plus the $279 to buy the truck. That is around $550 to make it perform and not fall apart. I am sure the sc10 4x4 is no cheaper in the long run if you get the exotek chassis. And all of the RCshox hopups. Both truck have their uses. Both are winning. As of late AE does appear to be winning a bit, lets see how nationals go. Also, keep in mind, for us not so fast guys, the Losi will always "feel" better. And you will be faster if you can keep your truck on its wheels and on the track. My goal is to get the sc10 4x4 on it wheel and on the track without breaking my bank. It appears that SC4x4 racing may end up being too expensive no mater what I buy. Thank god for 1/10 buggy, cheap as hell to race, lol.

Wild Cherry 07-19-2012 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by dragginyota (Post 10991542)
Tuning advice needed! I'll explain what i have and what the truck is doing! I got this 4x4 used and have now ran around 6 packs through it to get used to the truck and tell what exactly it is doing handling wise.

SC10 with FT upgrades running Caliber tires soft in rear super soft up front, Blue springs front & rear, 35wt oil front 30wt rear, blue sway bars. i have no idea on what diff fluid and running Tekin RX8 with pro 4 4000 motor.

After getting used to the truck and seeing the same problem each run the ass end is way loose! There are so many things to adjust on these 4x4's i dont know what to adjust first to fix a loose condition on a 4x4 SC.

Any advice would help and yes i have searched and searched this forum with no luck!



Yeah know ?
Its really difficult to tune a Sc 10 4x4 on the internet .:nod:




Best advise can give you is first have someone with more experience test drive your truck .

Also try his ride out for a few laps .

Doing this is fantastic short cut in gaining knowledge on tuning ....

Wildcat1971 07-19-2012 10:04 AM

yeah, there is a guy at my local track that always wins with his sc10 4x4. He has been working on a setup and does not used any aftermarket upgrades, nor is he sponsored. He just runs a tram edition with the FT upgrade kit and shims. he does not even use saddle packs.


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