5LikesSC10 4x4 Thread
04-29-2012, 08:26 PM
Because part of the additional weight in the raised part of the chassis (near B, see below) compared to the plastic one, compounded by the fact the sides are far away from the center of the chassis makes it makes even worse (again, see B below).
It might be small, but it's there (B), and it's worse than if it were, say, near or below (D). If it was all on the bottom (D or below) and in the center (between the two hinge-pins marked (C) it would be better all around and I wouldn't say that.
A lot of guys like the Exotec and use them, I am not one of them because I want to keep the weights in the middle. Certainly we disagree, but do you see why?
I'm in good shape today. Geo thinks I'm nuts for making the truck less failure prone and Marcus thinks I'm nuts because I think the weight in the Exotec isn't in the right place!
It might be small, but it's there (B), and it's worse than if it were, say, near or below (D). If it was all on the bottom (D or below) and in the center (between the two hinge-pins marked (C) it would be better all around and I wouldn't say that.
A lot of guys like the Exotec and use them, I am not one of them because I want to keep the weights in the middle. Certainly we disagree, but do you see why?
I'm in good shape today. Geo thinks I'm nuts for making the truck less failure prone and Marcus thinks I'm nuts because I think the weight in the Exotec isn't in the right place!
Only thing about that is the difference in body weight. negates all of that. I can run the EXO chassis and run a lighter body than you and end up with a lower COG? I think that is just splitting atoms at this point, there are just too many variables, what about the weight of the brace effecting your calculations? I understand your point but have you actually tried the EXO chassis? and on top of that the Losi's COG is about 2' higher than anything we have and yet it still is a great performer in most situations!! I have tried both and IMO it works better It has been proven time and time again that the lowest COG is not always the best scenario in offroad. on a loose track a higher COG works better, you can also compensate a high COG with your roll centers with ease.
To add to this i also run the tall saddle packs AND more weight added to the front of the chassis, and the truck is faster this way!! LOL
its all good man, different strokes for different folks!
04-29-2012, 08:29 PM
Don't worry - AE will, and Geo will then claim it's the best thing to happen since cut bread.
He never did say why he thought it was a bad idea, other than I came up with it. Like I wrote earlier, it shouldn't matter. But since its come loose on everyone who's ran for any length of time, and since nobody ever uses the clicker, for a six dollar savings, I'm gluing mine.
Other than to save six bucks every now and then (anyone who knows me IRL understands I'm totally down with saving a buck), I haven't seen why it's a good idea not to.
He never did say why he thought it was a bad idea, other than I came up with it. Like I wrote earlier, it shouldn't matter. But since its come loose on everyone who's ran for any length of time, and since nobody ever uses the clicker, for a six dollar savings, I'm gluing mine.
Other than to save six bucks every now and then (anyone who knows me IRL understands I'm totally down with saving a buck), I haven't seen why it's a good idea not to.
On a different note, i was installing the ft chassis brace and revised rear tower today and ran into an issue. The brace seems to be about 1.5mm too short, so when both ends are bolted down, it bowes the chassis a bit, and loosens the belt. Anyone have any ideas on what this could be?
On a different note, I was installing my ft brace and revised rear tower today, and noticed the brace is about 1.5mm to short. When both ends are screwed down, the belt loosened considerably, and there is no front to back movement in the center belt tunnel piece. Do the ends of the brace just simply thread on? I tried to twist one side as if i were going to unthread it, but it wouldn't budge. Does anyone have an idea what the issue could be?
04-29-2012, 08:31 PM
I understand that all the trucks are competitive, but why is your truck better than the LOSI or KYOSHO? From what I've seen at the local tracks, the LOSI seems to be dominant. WHY?
I currently run a 2wd SC10, and love it, but I don't want to buy a 4x4 SC10 and consistantly get smoked by a LOSI or KYOSHO....
It seems that the 2wd SC10 is fairly dominant, but the 4wd is not....????
I currently run a 2wd SC10, and love it, but I don't want to buy a 4x4 SC10 and consistantly get smoked by a LOSI or KYOSHO....
It seems that the 2wd SC10 is fairly dominant, but the 4wd is not....????
Big, loose, outdoor 8th scale tracks favor the losi.
Small, grooved, 10th scale tracks favor AE.
Guys used to driving 8th scale buggies may favor the losi. If you love driving the 2wd, I think you'd prefer the AE. I run both the 2wd and the 4wd, and typically finish in the middle of the A. I like the AE truck. It rewards clean, smooth driving, just like the 2wd. Our local track is a well balanced outdoor track that pics up a decent groove, so both AE and Losi work equally well. It all comes down to driver.
I also like it because I have access to the brains of MTK, Mantis, Craig, and others around here. Plus Coyote and Cherry make me laugh.
04-29-2012, 08:36 PM
Nor am I - I was trained as an accountant. Maybe I can use that here.
http://thunderpowerrc.com/G6ProRace6...oBatteries.htm
TP3800-2SPR65S 3800mAh 2-Cell/2S Shorty 212 grams EACH
TP5000-2SPR65S 5000mAh 2-Cell/2S Saddle 280 grams BOTH
So, 144 grams extra, 77 grams each side and sort of far away from the COG. You are getting some extra capacity if you are close to dumping, but most users don't have that problem.
Assuming you don't need the capacity and its just extra ballast where you don't need it.
http://thunderpowerrc.com/G6ProRace6...oBatteries.htm
TP3800-2SPR65S 3800mAh 2-Cell/2S Shorty 212 grams EACH
TP5000-2SPR65S 5000mAh 2-Cell/2S Saddle 280 grams BOTH
So, 144 grams extra, 77 grams each side and sort of far away from the COG. You are getting some extra capacity if you are close to dumping, but most users don't have that problem.
Assuming you don't need the capacity and its just extra ballast where you don't need it.
04-29-2012, 08:53 PM
A used worn out locknut will come loose though, and why are you so against the ca'ing when the truck is fastest with full time 4wd. No one i have met or talked to thought the clicker was even a tuning option for them....more of a burden.
I sorta wish that ae would come out with a clicker delete front pulley and top shaft. It would take weight away high up on the truck, which is never a bad thing
I sorta wish that ae would come out with a clicker delete front pulley and top shaft. It would take weight away high up on the truck, which is never a bad thing
Appreciate the fact if you used a worn out
nut and then it could come loose .....
Replace the thing, not glue more betta ....
The clicker is most use full !
can be a become a advantage on certain
track conditions
....
04-29-2012, 08:58 PM
What's your body weigh?
I can run the EXO chassis and run a lighter body than you and end up with a lower COG?
I think that is just splitting atoms at this point, there are just too many variables, what about the weight of the brace effecting your calculations?
I understand your point but have you actually tried the EXO chassis?
and on top of that the Losi's COG is about 2' higher than anything we have and yet it still is a great performer in most situations!!
I have tried both and IMO it works better It has been proven time and time again that the lowest COG is not always the best scenario in offroad.
on a loose track a higher COG works better, you can also compensate a high COG with your roll centers with ease.
To add to this i also run the tall saddle packs AND more weight added to the front of the chassis, and the truck is faster this way!! LOL
its all good man, different strokes for different folks!
its all good man, different strokes for different folks!
04-29-2012, 08:59 PM
Nor am I - I was trained as an accountant. Maybe I can use that here.
http://thunderpowerrc.com/G6ProRace6...oBatteries.htm
TP3800-2SPR65S 3800mAh 2-Cell/2S Shorty 212 grams EACH
TP5000-2SPR65S 5000mAh 2-Cell/2S Saddle 280 grams BOTH
So, 144 grams extra, 77 grams each side and sort of far away from the COG. You are getting some extra capacity if you are close to dumping, but most users don't have that problem.
Assuming you don't need the capacity and its just extra ballast where you don't need it.
http://thunderpowerrc.com/G6ProRace6...oBatteries.htm
TP3800-2SPR65S 3800mAh 2-Cell/2S Shorty 212 grams EACH
TP5000-2SPR65S 5000mAh 2-Cell/2S Saddle 280 grams BOTH
So, 144 grams extra, 77 grams each side and sort of far away from the COG. You are getting some extra capacity if you are close to dumping, but most users don't have that problem.
Assuming you don't need the capacity and its just extra ballast where you don't need it.
04-29-2012, 09:07 PM
Tech Initiate
Jay.
04-29-2012, 09:10 PM
Tech Initiate
hey jay, nice to see someone local interested in this truck........seems like no clubs on the island care about running hard case batterys for racing, however, i have run both saddles and stick packs in my truck, and there is minimal difference. Do you plan to come race in nanaimo any time during the summer?
Jay.
04-29-2012, 09:16 PM
04-29-2012, 09:21 PM
Tech Regular
So in the real world we change part numbers if the update effects "fit form or function". Not changing the part number when there is new old stock in the pipeline is stupid. It's wrong.
That being said, if you get the wrong cover call Associated and they'll send the correct part.
That being said, if you get the wrong cover call Associated and they'll send the correct part.
04-29-2012, 09:45 PM
When is the clicker an advantage? Just wondering..I'm new to the SC10..
04-29-2012, 09:49 PM
My order did not show up Friday so I could only go 5mm on the inside. The rear tab I made had a hole farther out than the upside down "C" hub most have been running. It was real good! Unfortunately the material I used sucked and I broke one in the first qual. Changed to back to a "C" hub style and it was not good coming off of corners.
04-29-2012, 10:06 PM
Gotta tell ya that I ran the center diff today for the first time, all I can say is unreal!
Made the truck a dream to drive today. Best modification I have made to any rc rig ever!
Made the truck a dream to drive today. Best modification I have made to any rc rig ever!
04-29-2012, 10:10 PM
