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Old 10-12-2011, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridley View Post
As for this whole 3s debate, I don't think 3s has any place in the 4x4 sct class, for several reasons.

1. 3S is WAY faster. On tiny indoor tracks, it won't make a difference, on outdoor tracks, it makes a HUGE difference. Before anyone says it isn't faster, thats just plain BS. I did a fair share of testing on 3s, and it's WAY faster unless you are using a VERY low kv motor. Nobody will....racers will push 3s to the limit, just like they do 2s. If you don't think a good driver can harness the extra power, you are kidding yourselves...my e-scale lap times prove that. It's far faster, plain and simple.

2. 2s in the sct's gives a good class delineation from e-scale. Why try to make 4x4 sct into a cookie cutter e-scale class with a bobble head body? The lap times are already close enough, and the talent is already over diluted with "too many" sct classes.

3. Why make it so you need different equipment to go to different tracks? There's a track here running 3s now. They will soon see the folly in that when racers refuse to show up because they have equipment that fits into the other tracks's in the area rules.

4. 10 minutes is no issue on 2s. We have ran 10 minutes since 4x4 first came out. It can be done, even with the outdated 2 pole 550's and a stock weight Losi. Buy an 8000mah battery if you have to, but most of us have zero issues with a 6000mah battery. If you can't make 10 minutes, you are doing something wrong

Anyways, thats my .02. 3s will be the death of 4x4 sct...I think it may be the one thing that ROAR has gotten right with this class.
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The weight is irrelevant. What's relevant is the wattage one can make with the extra voltage. Racers will max out as many amps as they can, thats what they do. They will gear everything as hard as they can, and be right back to the heat issues they have now. The only difference is the trucks will be ballistic fast, even more unrealistic, and even closer to e-scale. There will be even more of the "I broke my truck" threads, and more "issues" arise as drivers throw more power at their trucks.

Drive an e-scale on 4s or 5s. Your 4x4 sct will seem slow.....as it should. And what happens in e-scale? People gear them as hard as they can according to heat, and pull as many amps through the esc as they can get away with. So whats their solution? Let's run 5s, 6s..........

It's a never ending cycle. Nip it in the butt at 2s and keep 10th scale affordable and at a speed that is a stepping stone to the pinnacle of 4x4 offroad that is E-scale.
Couldnt have said it better !
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:49 AM
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Allright, yes I know this is a really stupid question, but lets say in Aaron Lane's set up he runs 7-5-3 in the diffs. I assume those are in wt. and not in cps?
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:50 AM
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link to the full write up please
I will send you a PM when I get home this afternoon
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I thought I was making progress on my ready to run weight. I'm at 6 lb 10 oz with:

- lightened outdrives front, middle, rear
- chopped rear bumper, sides no mud flaps
- chopped battery tray
- chopped nerf bars off the side
- Lunsford punishers
- chopped center diff top brace
- removed outer sleeve from Ballistic 550
- jammin lightweight wheel hexes

Next up I guess is a lighter chassis and carbon shock towers. Will I ever be under 6 lbs???

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Old 10-12-2011, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandturk View Post
I thought I was making progress on my ready to run weight. I'm at 6 lb 10 oz with:

- lightened outdrives front, middle, read
- chopped rear bumper, sides no mud flaps
- chopped battery tray
- Lunsford punishers
- chopped center diff top brace
- removed outer sleeve from Ballistic 550
- jammin lightweight wheel hexes

Next up I guess is a lighter chassis and carbon shock towers. Will I ever be under 6 lbs???
You should be lighter than that. I would check your scale for accuracy. I'm at 6lbs 4oz pretty much stock...other than Carbon towers I do run the 3800 which is light.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:15 AM
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My truck weighs a healthy 6.7lbs and still make 8 min mains. All on 2s. Not a fan of hacking up this truck as I only run outdoor 1/8.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Feint Motion View Post
My truck weighs a healthy 6.7lbs and still make 8 min mains. All on 2s. Not a fan of hacking up this truck as I only run outdoor 1/8.
I'm was able to make 10 minute mains at stock weight with a 12T pinion on the 4.5 Ballistic with no timing. I'm just trying to reduce weight to get some more speed and handling out of it - and hopefully be easier on the Lipo's.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lowroad View Post
A really good upgrade is to just swap out the cheesy stock button head for a proper hex head allowing you to torque down on it much more. It won't move again. No need for a fancy aftermarket motor mount.
Unless the stock one is already junk!
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:50 AM
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My SCTE has the exact same width as my Kyosho MP9 TKI and the SCTE has about a 2mm longer wheelbase. With that being said, what designates it to be 10th scale?
Also the Losi 810 is 8th scale, same size Ten T is 10th scale, and the 3/4in. longer SCTE is 10th. Things that make you say huuuummm.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandturk View Post
I thought I was making progress on my ready to run weight. I'm at 6 lb 10 oz with:

- lightened outdrives front, middle, rear
- chopped rear bumper, sides no mud flaps
- chopped battery tray
- chopped nerf bars off the side
- Lunsford punishers
- chopped center diff top brace
- removed outer sleeve from Ballistic 550
- jammin lightweight wheel hexes

Next up I guess is a lighter chassis and carbon shock towers. Will I ever be under 6 lbs???
Getting under 6lbs is TOUGH, it takes a lot of work. You motor choice is a very heavy one. Perhaps your battery is as well? How much shoe goo is on your body? What tires and wheels did you weigh it with? Did you wash those tires lately(ie water inside) etc etc.

My truck was at 5lbs, 14 ounces RTR...but apparently the little bit of grime and the shoe goo I have added over the last few months have added back 2 ounces. It's amazing how much weight you can accumulate on a body in short order!!!

Tires, even of the same brand, can vary over an ounce between tread patterns. The dirt that gets in the vent holes also adds weight, as well as any moisture that gets inside.

The next biggest losers for you will be some carbon towers and getting rid of the stock hingepin holders. You can lose 3 ounces with a smaller motor choice as well.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridley View Post
Perhaps your battery is as well? How much shoe goo is on your body? What tires and wheels did you weigh it with? Did you wash those tires lately(ie water inside) etc etc.

The next biggest losers for you will be some carbon towers and getting rid of the stock hingepin holders. You can lose 3 ounces with a smaller motor choice as well.
great points. The body is fresh - but I did wash some stuck on sand out of it after I weighed it - so a couple of grams there for sure.

Battery might be on the heavy side - SMC 6000 mah hard case 2s.

Waiting for that new Viper ESC and motor Salad's been torturing us with. And CF towers and Losi alum hinge pin holders are next. What's that get me down to - maybe 6lbs 5 oz?

Tires were a brand new set of proline suburbs on DE Trinidads in MC Compound. Honestly I thought these felt heavy in comparison to the stock Losi Eclipse and wheel.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:29 AM
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Jenny Craig would be so proud of all these malnourished TEN-SCTEs. LOL!!!! Wow!! 5lb 14oz.....sounds like a premature baby and not a Losi. LOL!!!
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelman82 View Post
I bought a hyperion super duo 3 charger being new to the electrics i took the advice i got here thanks again btw Just was wondering if anyone knows where i can get a good power supply for it? or what others who have it are powering it with? thanks again guys
I love this little power supply. It is not the cheapest option out there but has been very relable for me and it is small so it does not take up too much space and with a 24amp rating it should meet all your needs.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...r-Supply-Black

Originally Posted by mjealey View Post
Allright, yes I know this is a really stupid question, but lets say in Aaron Lane's set up he runs 7-5-3 in the diffs. I assume those are in wt. and not in cps?
They stand for 7000, 5000, 3000 cps. The team all uses Losi diff oil but most of the major brand dff oils should be close (AE, Kyosho, Mugan, ofna etc).
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BmainStar View Post
Unless the stock one is already junk!
touche' monsuier Bmain, touche'
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:53 AM
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I still dont understand how to adjust the droop on this truck, mines completely stock ATM, I see the grub screw in the A arm that hits on the chassis, Is that what the screw to adjust droop or is that for adjusting shock travel?

If someone could just explain step by step and make it easy to understand that would be awesome.

Thanks in advance!!!
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