9LikesLosi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread
10-11-2011, 10:13 AM
The 2 cell limit is the problem. These cars can easily run 10 minutes if 3s were allowed in 4x4. These cars are closer to 8th scale than they are 1/10th scale so the 2s limit is really on the edge in terms of the battery power.
We normally don't run much longer than 6 or 8 minute mains. I could barely make an 8 minute main with a 2s 5300 Thunder Power g6 pack. I doubt I would make a 10 minute main.
The 4x4 SCTs are popular with 8th scale guys locally. A lot of them would run 10 minute mains if given the choice, but the 2s rule prevents it as most probably couldn't finish the main on larger 1/8th scale tracks.
3s with 2400-3000kv motors would be perfect for 4x4 scte. We could easily make 10 minutes running 3s 5000 packs in our Losi 810s.
We normally don't run much longer than 6 or 8 minute mains. I could barely make an 8 minute main with a 2s 5300 Thunder Power g6 pack. I doubt I would make a 10 minute main.
The 4x4 SCTs are popular with 8th scale guys locally. A lot of them would run 10 minute mains if given the choice, but the 2s rule prevents it as most probably couldn't finish the main on larger 1/8th scale tracks.
3s with 2400-3000kv motors would be perfect for 4x4 scte. We could easily make 10 minutes running 3s 5000 packs in our Losi 810s.
10-11-2011, 10:36 AM
I'm finishing 10 minute mains on 1/8th scale tracks with 6000mah Dynamite 25c 2S packs, RX8 (no timing, current limiter at 80%), SC4X 4.5.
According to my Hyperion I usually have about ~10-12% battery left at the end.
According to my Hyperion I usually have about ~10-12% battery left at the end.
10-11-2011, 10:37 AM
The 2 cell limit is the problem. These cars can easily run 10 minutes if 3s were allowed in 4x4. These cars are closer to 8th scale than they are 1/10th scale so the 2s limit is really on the edge in terms of the battery power.
We normally don't run much longer than 6 or 8 minute mains. I could barely make an 8 minute main with a 2s 5300 Thunder Power g6 pack. I doubt I would make a 10 minute main.
The 4x4 SCTs are popular with 8th scale guys locally. A lot of them would run 10 minute mains if given the choice, but the 2s rule prevents it as most probably couldn't finish the main on larger 1/8th scale tracks.
3s with 2400-3000kv motors would be perfect for 4x4 scte. We could easily make 10 minutes running 3s 5000 packs in our Losi 810s.
We normally don't run much longer than 6 or 8 minute mains. I could barely make an 8 minute main with a 2s 5300 Thunder Power g6 pack. I doubt I would make a 10 minute main.
The 4x4 SCTs are popular with 8th scale guys locally. A lot of them would run 10 minute mains if given the choice, but the 2s rule prevents it as most probably couldn't finish the main on larger 1/8th scale tracks.
3s with 2400-3000kv motors would be perfect for 4x4 scte. We could easily make 10 minutes running 3s 5000 packs in our Losi 810s.
10-11-2011, 10:40 AM
Yeah, I do agree.
Not saying I prefer 2S, just saying I can make 10 mins. But I do agree 3S would be a lot better.
Not saying I prefer 2S, just saying I can make 10 mins. But I do agree 3S would be a lot better.
10-11-2011, 10:44 AM
I prefer being able to use my 2S packs on all my 1/10th vehicles. I wouldn't mind going 3S though, with all of those added benefits.
10-11-2011, 11:49 AM
The 2 cell limit is the problem. These cars can easily run 10 minutes if 3s were allowed in 4x4. These cars are closer to 8th scale than they are 1/10th scale so the 2s limit is really on the edge in terms of the battery power.
We normally don't run much longer than 6 or 8 minute mains. I could barely make an 8 minute main with a 2s 5300 Thunder Power g6 pack. I doubt I would make a 10 minute main.
The 4x4 SCTs are popular with 8th scale guys locally. A lot of them would run 10 minute mains if given the choice, but the 2s rule prevents it as most probably couldn't finish the main on larger 1/8th scale tracks.
3s with 2400-3000kv motors would be perfect for 4x4 scte. We could easily make 10 minutes running 3s 5000 packs in our Losi 810s.
We normally don't run much longer than 6 or 8 minute mains. I could barely make an 8 minute main with a 2s 5300 Thunder Power g6 pack. I doubt I would make a 10 minute main.
The 4x4 SCTs are popular with 8th scale guys locally. A lot of them would run 10 minute mains if given the choice, but the 2s rule prevents it as most probably couldn't finish the main on larger 1/8th scale tracks.
3s with 2400-3000kv motors would be perfect for 4x4 scte. We could easily make 10 minutes running 3s 5000 packs in our Losi 810s.
I think outdoor tracks should have a open class despite poopy "ROAR" rules to allow this.
2s packs is 6000+mah is still pushing the envelope on large track where as 3s set up could easily cruise thru with 5000mah or less with modest gearing and KV's. The set ups can easily be conservative and comparable to 2s power.
I have a NEU 1509 1820KV that would be perfect for this but Nooooooooooo, Roar can bite my azz.
10-11-2011, 11:57 AM
Run time really varies from track to track. I run the same equipment as Ryan doe and I cannot make 10 either unless I drive really smartly.
This class in it's current form was never meant nor designed to run 10 minutes. The 2wd's weren't either. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
At best I could see 7 minutes. This would be safe for the existing designs and equipment.
This class in it's current form was never meant nor designed to run 10 minutes. The 2wd's weren't either. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
At best I could see 7 minutes. This would be safe for the existing designs and equipment.
10-11-2011, 12:03 PM
+1000 !
I think outdoor tracks should have a open class despite poopy "ROAR" rules to allow this.
2s packs is 6000+mah is still pushing the envelope on large track where as 3s set up could easily cruise thru with 5000mah or less with modest gearing and KV's. The set ups can easily be conservative and comparable to 2s power.
I have a NEU 1509 1820KV that would be perfect for this but Nooooooooooo, Roar can bite my azz.
I think outdoor tracks should have a open class despite poopy "ROAR" rules to allow this.
2s packs is 6000+mah is still pushing the envelope on large track where as 3s set up could easily cruise thru with 5000mah or less with modest gearing and KV's. The set ups can easily be conservative and comparable to 2s power.
I have a NEU 1509 1820KV that would be perfect for this but Nooooooooooo, Roar can bite my azz.
I know people using custom made chassis and other parts for 1/8th buggies and no one cares, not sure why all the fuss in a class that's advertised as "Open".
10-11-2011, 01:13 PM
the thing I see is over gearing. Yes you can put a 14 tooth pinion on a 4600 tekin and have great speed and still have cool motor temps, but you can not make 10 mins. I have dropped down to a 12 tooth it is a little slower but I make 10 min. My battery is a thunderpower 5300 mah 65c and I have been coming of the track with avg 7.5 voltage left in battery. I also have been winning races with this combo. CHIRO972 what up this is dennis
10-11-2011, 01:25 PM
What's weird is in RCPro races they generally advertise it as "4wd Open". How is it open when you spec things like battery cells, that it has to be a boxed kit, etc.
I know people using custom made chassis and other parts for 1/8th buggies and no one cares, not sure why all the fuss in a class that's advertised as "Open".
I know people using custom made chassis and other parts for 1/8th buggies and no one cares, not sure why all the fuss in a class that's advertised as "Open".
For a HobbyShop track that organizes club races I think the rules should be a bit accommodating provideing your not running a crazy set up IMHO ?
10-11-2011, 01:36 PM
will this work
LOSB2222 - Losi Front & Rear Sway Bar Kit (Ten-T)
LOSB2222 - Losi Front & Rear Sway Bar Kit (Ten-T)
10-11-2011, 01:36 PM
The Wednesday night races at the local track here are pretty agnostic. I don't think they'd care what I run (I plan on running a converted RC8 in the near future 
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But yeah, I don't know why they advertise stuff as "Open" when clearly it's not. :\
).But yeah, I don't know why they advertise stuff as "Open" when clearly it's not. :\
10-11-2011, 01:40 PM
I think for our track, the 2s is a safety issue as much as anything else. We are running these 4wd sc's on the 10th scale track. They're almost too fast for it as is. 3s, they'd be punting themselves over the fince I think. If we moved em to the 8th scale, well then maybe. Though we've tried that and frankly the lap times were only a couple seconds off nitro buggy times on average, some were just as fast. That's with 2s.
10-11-2011, 01:43 PM
Yeah, it totally depends on the track. On a small track, 3S is ridiculous. 
10-11-2011, 02:01 PM
Yeppers, thats the one.
As for the 2s, 3s thing...I think this is about the 3rd go around on this one on this thread...haha. I still feel that with this being a 10th scale vehicle, it should stay 2s. However, the 10 minute races are too long at this point for the current technolgies. I know this truck can handle 3s, so thats not what I am saying, heck, I have put 4s in it, lol, but they have plenty of power with existing systems. I have run the same 2 packs in my truck and same motor and esc for the last year or so and have had no problems.
As for the 2s, 3s thing...I think this is about the 3rd go around on this one on this thread...haha. I still feel that with this being a 10th scale vehicle, it should stay 2s. However, the 10 minute races are too long at this point for the current technolgies. I know this truck can handle 3s, so thats not what I am saying, heck, I have put 4s in it, lol, but they have plenty of power with existing systems. I have run the same 2 packs in my truck and same motor and esc for the last year or so and have had no problems.