9LikesLosi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread
08-20-2011, 11:46 AM
08-20-2011, 11:47 AM
08-20-2011, 12:16 PM
08-20-2011, 12:19 PM
Ya his was the first Bce we have seen at our track and he let quite a few people look over his truck,and yes he is very happy with the chassis(Love it) His words!!I am really waiting on the Losi chassis cuz im such a fan boy
But after some back and forth with Jeff(Bondonutz) and seeing Bryan`s I want to have one of each cuzz I have two trucks, that way I can be brand loyal on one and help out an fellow American with the other as well!!
But after some back and forth with Jeff(Bondonutz) and seeing Bryan`s I want to have one of each cuzz I have two trucks, that way I can be brand loyal on one and help out an fellow American with the other as well!!
08-20-2011, 12:19 PM
I'm looking to trade my sc10 4x4 for a SCTE or just go buy one NIB. Tired of getting pushed around the track.
08-20-2011, 12:21 PM
I had a CF skidplate on my dune buggie and it went through miles and miles of abuse with not so much as a nick taken out. Granted this was thicker and on a full size vehicle, but principle should be the same.
08-20-2011, 12:23 PM
08-20-2011, 12:29 PM
I don't think your accurate in that statement...CF is tougher than most believe.
I had a CF skidplate on my dune buggie and it went through miles and miles of abuse with not so much as a nick taken out. Granted this was thicker and on a full size vehicle, but principle should be the same.
I had a CF skidplate on my dune buggie and it went through miles and miles of abuse with not so much as a nick taken out. Granted this was thicker and on a full size vehicle, but principle should be the same.
All the guys that drive the 4wd 1/10 buggy class, you should their pretty CF chassis aftera half a season, they need replacing. So I base my theory on that alone.
If you run anywhere else where the tracks have a lower concerntration of sand then maybe your remark is closer to fact.
I firmly believe the most bang for the buck is the BCE, herds lighter than stock and tough(T7 aluminum)as nails, not T6 they others are useing.
08-20-2011, 01:08 PM
As I stated, our tracks here(Tampa Bay FL.) are very abrasive and like concrete, IMO(and mine alone) I wouldn't waste the coin on it because the fact of the matter is that the CF will get sanded down.
All the guys that drive the 4wd 1/10 buggy class, you should their pretty CF chassis aftera half a season, they need replacing. So I base my theory on that alone.
If you run anywhere else where the tracks have a lower concerntration of sand then maybe your remark is closer to fact.
I firmly believe the most bang for the buck is the BCE, herds lighter than stock and tough(T7 aluminum)as nails, not T6 they others are useing.
All the guys that drive the 4wd 1/10 buggy class, you should their pretty CF chassis aftera half a season, they need replacing. So I base my theory on that alone.
If you run anywhere else where the tracks have a lower concerntration of sand then maybe your remark is closer to fact.
I firmly believe the most bang for the buck is the BCE, herds lighter than stock and tough(T7 aluminum)as nails, not T6 they others are useing.
But I've seen plenty of people run CF chassis on their 1/8th scale cars at big tracks like Revelation without any issues. Revelation and have been running it for a LONG time. Also, I don't know of ANY aftermarket chassis (for the SCTE) companies using T6 like you stated above. Both the TLR as well as the Tim Bump chassis are using T7, so I don't know where you're getting your information if you thought otherwise. I'm glad you're happy with the BCE chassis, I haven't come across anyone that hasn't been. It's the real deal. We'll all see how the TLR chassis does once it comes out, but by watching Casper, Ryan and Aaron Lane run them, they're VERY good. Haven't seen anyone run the Bump chassis, but it just came out. We'll see how the SNR chassis does in competition once it starts getting more and more out there, but so far, I've ran well with it. Maybe not for everybody, but it's certainly is nice to have as many options as we do 
08-20-2011, 01:11 PM
As I stated, our tracks here(Tampa Bay FL.) are very abrasive and like concrete, IMO(and mine alone) I wouldn't waste the coin on it because the fact of the matter is that the CF will get sanded down.
All the guys that drive the 4wd 1/10 buggy class, you should their pretty CF chassis aftera half a season, they need replacing. So I base my theory on that alone.
If you run anywhere else where the tracks have a lower concerntration of sand then maybe your remark is closer to fact.
I firmly believe the most bang for the buck is the BCE, herds lighter than stock and tough(T7 aluminum)as nails, not T6 they others are useing.
All the guys that drive the 4wd 1/10 buggy class, you should their pretty CF chassis aftera half a season, they need replacing. So I base my theory on that alone.
If you run anywhere else where the tracks have a lower concerntration of sand then maybe your remark is closer to fact.
I firmly believe the most bang for the buck is the BCE, herds lighter than stock and tough(T7 aluminum)as nails, not T6 they others are useing.
Myself personally I would choose the BCE over the CF because of the sheer fact that my son and I sometimes run our trucks up at the bike track near our house, where it's really abrasive and sandy there.. It really took a toll on our plastic traxxas chassis when we first got into the hobby.. So I know it would have the belt sander effect on the CF also... If my truck was strictly being ran at the indoor track we go too I would really consider the CF chassis.. Each their own 
08-20-2011, 01:32 PM
Dang my question got ignored twice, where's the love?
08-20-2011, 01:35 PM
I can't say how cf would last at your track because I've never been to your track, but I can say the properties of CF are MUCH better than your reporting them to be. I agree that BCE makes a fine product. I've seen them in action at my local track. It's a great option. But I can personally vouch that CF wont wear down like it's being on a "belt sander". Maybe your track is using sandpaper as a surface But I've seen plenty of people run CF chassis on their 1/8th scale cars at big tracks like Revelation without any issues. Revelation and have been running it for a LONG time. Also, I don't know of ANY aftermarket chassis (for the SCTE) companies using T6 like you stated above. Both the TLR as well as the Tim Bump chassis are using T7, so I don't know where you're getting your information if you thought otherwise. I'm glad you're happy with the BCE chassis, I haven't come across anyone that hasn't been. It's the real deal. We'll all see how the TLR chassis does once it comes out, but by watching Casper, Ryan and Aaron Lane run them, they're VERY good. Haven't seen anyone run the Bump chassis, but it just came out. We'll see how the SNR chassis does in competition once it starts getting more and more out there, but so far, I've ran well with it. Maybe not for everybody, but it's certainly is nice to have as many options as we do
But I've seen plenty of people run CF chassis on their 1/8th scale cars at big tracks like Revelation without any issues. Revelation and have been running it for a LONG time. Also, I don't know of ANY aftermarket chassis (for the SCTE) companies using T6 like you stated above. Both the TLR as well as the Tim Bump chassis are using T7, so I don't know where you're getting your information if you thought otherwise. I'm glad you're happy with the BCE chassis, I haven't come across anyone that hasn't been. It's the real deal. We'll all see how the TLR chassis does once it comes out, but by watching Casper, Ryan and Aaron Lane run them, they're VERY good. Haven't seen anyone run the Bump chassis, but it just came out. We'll see how the SNR chassis does in competition once it starts getting more and more out there, but so far, I've ran well with it. Maybe not for everybody, but it's certainly is nice to have as many options as we do Facts are facts, T7 aluminm is harder than epoxy, will the CF wear out on a very abrasive track eventually Yes. Thats it for me.
Now about who's using what for materials ??
Ummm, check the first sentence
http://www.nitrohouse.com/p24361/CNC...duct_info.html
If Losi isn't saying weither it's T6 or T7 then I'll bet big money it's T6, especially when considering it's being made by China. Those cheap fooks are alll about doing everything cheap as possible. I'd also bet the TLR chassis are STAMPED and then finished on a CNC machine to make the relief pockets then Hard Anoded to make eveything nice and tidy.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, I love some Losi products, check my sig I have a lot $$ invested in Losi but it's all about marketing and doing everything cheap as possible and some stuff just isn't what everyone thinks it is. Just my 2cents and personal Op. I have no problem admiting I'm wrong if this can be shown otherwise because I dont claim to know everything nor am I a pro driver. I'm a old fat dude that plays with RC cars but I do have some experience with materials and getting what I pay for
08-20-2011, 01:36 PM
I get your theory there.. If you ran your truck on say a hardpacked indoor track that wasn't abrasive than the CF should and would be great... CF is very tough... Great tensile strength I don't think CF would last as long on say a belt sander as much as aluminum would Myself personally I would choose the BCE over the CF because of the sheer fact that my son and I sometimes run our trucks up at the bike track near our house, where it's really abrasive and sandy there.. It really took a toll on our plastic traxxas chassis when we first got into the hobby.. So I know it would have the belt sander effect on the CF also... If my truck was strictly being ran at the indoor track we go too I would really consider the CF chassis.. Each their own
Myself personally I would choose the BCE over the CF because of the sheer fact that my son and I sometimes run our trucks up at the bike track near our house, where it's really abrasive and sandy there.. It really took a toll on our plastic traxxas chassis when we first got into the hobby.. So I know it would have the belt sander effect on the CF also... If my truck was strictly being ran at the indoor track we go too I would really consider the CF chassis.. Each their own 1 if you need to drill a hole and do a counter sink which one would be best and can you do it with CF ?
2 does the cf degrade after 5 yrs and get more brittle like fiberglass does
I want to buy something to lighten this 7 pound 3 ounce Pig of a great TRUCK but if I need to add or do something. can I trim the CF? and all that nice CF stuff on the trucks posted look cool but everybody doesn't have 200.00 to do all the add ons Thanks
08-20-2011, 01:39 PM
08-20-2011, 01:47 PM
The Bump chassis is 7075 T6. The 7075 is the type of alloy (tough as nails) and the T6 designates the temper spec of the aluminum. T6 has the higher yield strength and T7 has increased dimensional stability for less warpage during machining.