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Old 09-28-2011, 10:56 AM
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I have always found a stiffer front spring to have less aggressive low speed steering and less chassis roll to the front end. It will also make for a slightly wider turning radius.

With the 22, I prefer the orange (stiffer) front spring on larger tracks with more flowing turns. For tighter tracks I prefer red (softer) front springs as they have better low speed steering.

Give both a try and see which works better for you and your particular track.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:41 PM
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Running my 22 for the first time in about an hour, at the local track. A buddy w/ a B4.1 talked me into getting into 2wd buggies. I loved his car and can't wait to beat him w/ a Losi! Lol
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:05 PM
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Wow! Perfect car for the Karns track here in Knoxville. Love this car!
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[QUOTE=tripthreat;9714768]The aluminum camber brace is more durable also. Going to the shorter link will make the front end much more aggressive, I really prefer the longer link. But as always, give it a try to see for yourself, then you will "know".


Thanks Frank.
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tripthreat
The aluminum camber brace is more durable also... If you change to 20* kick and 10* castor, the weight will move on and off of the front end much quicker and more aggressively.
I thought it was the exact opposite. Think about how the rear hinge pins are angled in relation to the rearward weight transfer once anti-squat is added. Now think about the angle of the front inner hinge pins in relation to the forward weight transfer. The further the pins are from 0 degrees in that way, the more like pro-squat on the rear it would be, right? I am not trying to call you out, I am just trying to better understand the adjustments on my 22. What do you think?

Also could you ask the engineers why they chose smaller hexes for the front wheels, and why no droop screws?
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Vega
Use the Kyosho X-Orings. They last longer and do not leak. Just as smooth if not better.
Thanks for the info and YGM
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Originally Posted by onekiwi
whats the part number for those?
Kyosho clear xrings - org03x

Kyosho clear xrings

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i have 2 packs of these orings....

they look to be too small on the inner diameter.....
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt M.
i have 2 packs of these orings....

they look to be too small on the inner diameter.....
I have these as well, but decided not to use them due to the difference in shaft diameter.

Kyosho ==> 3mm
Losi ==> 3.5mm

So these appear to be working for everyone?

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Old 09-29-2011, 07:32 AM
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You think the smaller ID keeps them from leaking and the material keeps them from binding?
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:08 AM
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They work great... I have them in my 22 shocks and they do not leak or cause any noticeable stiction.
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Originally Posted by desertracerdad
They work great... I have them in my 22 shocks and they do not leak or cause any noticeable stiction.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:26 AM
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Ok, so I never got to run my car "spindles up" last weekend and get to see the difference in.handling, but I just made the modification on one buggy only of mine while leaving the other buggy with the DE spacing. If you don't think bumpsteer is affected by this change, try this yourself.

On the stock setup, bumpsteer occurs (if at all) in the last 20% of travel only. In the spindles up configuration (and no change on bumpsteer spacer) bumpsteer occurs throughout the entire upward range of motion! Wow! I guess I was wrong about it only happening at the end of travel, but that was my understanding before. Maybe this slight bumpsteer angle change thru the whole range of motion is what smoothed out the steering response.

Physics, arent they great!
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fullsyzz
Kyosho clear xrings - org03x

Kyosho clear xrings

I see they have a "low friction" version as well...
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Shock-O-Ring-8
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:49 AM
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Back in my kyosho days I liked the clearn ones a little better. They felt smoother. The orange ones are a little more durable but I found they swelled faster then the clears as well.
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