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Old 04-23-2012 | 09:26 AM
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I got the Ghea top spring retainers and 22 bottom cup retainers. You can also get top spring retainers that Traxxas makes but I decided spending $22 on Ghea was better than the $3 for the Traxxas stuff. Probably why I have little to no money.
http://www.absolutehobbyz.com/produc...oducts_id=8480
This is where I bought them from. They work perfect and I got them in two days.
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Old 04-23-2012 | 09:37 AM
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Can anyone share the benefits of the carbon top plate vs. the benefits of the carbon u-brace?
I use the carbon top plate on my SC10 and B4.1. I had a couple of bottom bolts back out on my SC10 with the stock plastic top plate. The carbon top plate really grabs the bolts tight and they dont ever back out. The holes dont strip after a few rebuilds. Might not be as much an issue with the lighter B4.1, but I switched both and they are great. As far as a tuning option, I dont know if their is any benefit or draw-back. I dont use the carbon U-brace and have not tried it so not sure on that one.
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Old 04-23-2012 | 09:43 AM
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The carbon stiffens the car up for higher bite tracks. If I had both I would not run them at EN or CRCRC. I have the carbon front and rear brace on my buggy and am simply too lazy to get the regular plastic to see what it changes.
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Old 04-23-2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by eper
thought these forums where to help people not bust on them, ive seen way less intelegent questions without all this. whats up with that?
I visit the forums to obtain information, learn about current trends, get tips and ideas, share my experiences, frustration, and fixes, but lately I have began to question this current trend of modifying the B4 to accept other parts in the quest for better performance. I am wondering out loud how much of this is benificial vs doing what the other guy does, or just plain old manufactured hype. I am all for making improvements to my car if it makes an IMPROVEMENT. I know that modifying the B4 buggy has been done for years but it seems lately the trend is picking up speed.

Things like the cab forward bodies. Some people swear they create more front down force, some think they make no difference. Myself personally I found the type of wing I use and it's position affect car handling way more than the angle and position of the cab.

Hex conversion. Let's you use more types of wheels. Any performance benefit? who knows.

Shorty pack? I prefer it over the stick pack. This particular trend worked for me.

After market or Losi pistons? Have not tried them.

BB springs and shocks. I like the BB springs and use them with great success, however I know several guys who swear by the stock set up. They say it comes that way from the factory for a reason.

So to sum it up, I question any new mod. If it works, fine... but I don't want to get caught up in the latest and the greatest just because one guy saw one pro do it one time on his car.

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Old 04-23-2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nismomike
I use the carbon top plate on my SC10 and B4.1. I had a couple of bottom bolts back out on my SC10 with the stock plastic top plate. The carbon top plate really grabs the bolts tight and they dont ever back out. The holes dont strip after a few rebuilds. Might not be as much an issue with the lighter B4.1, but I switched both and they are great. As far as a tuning option, I dont know if their is any benefit or draw-back. I dont use the carbon U-brace and have not tried it so not sure on that one.
Do you have a part number?
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Old 04-23-2012 | 01:02 PM
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I just posted this in the FS forum, we are doing a fund raiser to help get some additional trucks/buggies up and running for our Cars-4-Kids Program.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...l#post10642304

Screw kits for the B4 and T4 and I think almost enough for the SC10. $15 ea. or 2 for $28 shipped. It is a fund raiser and all money will go directly to the program.

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Old 04-23-2012 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ktchristman33
Can anyone share the benefits of the carbon top plate vs. the benefits of the carbon u-brace?
In my experience I have found that the carbon front top plate really takes away steering in the middle of the corner compared to the stock 4.1 plastic. I have tried them back to back and can really feel a difference between the two and how they feel on the track. I first started playing with it at Trackside in Milwaukee, and since I liked the feel of the 4.1 plastic, I have not taken it off my car since.

With the U-brace, I guess I've just ran the carbon one without changing it. I usually play with the 3 different rear arms if I'm really searching for a certain feel in the rear end of the car. If I had to guess, I would say the effect is similar to what I mentioned for the front. The carbon is going to be stiffer, which leads to less flex in the plastic, which would probably lead to the rear end of the car feeling a bit more "free."

Hope this helps!
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Old 04-23-2012 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zipperfoot
Do you have a part number?
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Old 04-23-2012 | 02:36 PM
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what's the biggest pinion you can run on a 75 spur gear? thank you for any/all replies.
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Old 04-23-2012 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DSouza
what's the biggest pinion you can run on a 75 spur gear? thank you for any/all replies.
Go with a smaller spur if running 17.5 non-boosted. 72/35 or so at my local track.
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Old 04-23-2012 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Mac
In my experience I have found that the carbon front top plate really takes away steering in the middle of the corner compared to the stock 4.1 plastic. I have tried them back to back and can really feel a difference between the two and how they feel on the track. I first started playing with it at Trackside in Milwaukee, and since I liked the feel of the 4.1 plastic, I have not taken it off my car since.

With the U-brace, I guess I've just ran the carbon one without changing it. I usually play with the 3 different rear arms if I'm really searching for a certain feel in the rear end of the car. If I had to guess, I would say the effect is similar to what I mentioned for the front. The carbon is going to be stiffer, which leads to less flex in the plastic, which would probably lead to the rear end of the car feeling a bit more "free."

Hope this helps!
I just run em bc of the wear but When carbon is all around going back to back I feel like the carbon felt better on my car and was more direct and more predictable...I also may be crazy too
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Old 04-23-2012 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zipperfoot
Out of curiosity, what prompted everyone (most everyone) to change to BB springs? Was it the me too syndrome? Was there some real problem with the stock springs? Is there some sort of BB spring manufacture takeover in progress? Just wondering...
Because racecar.
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Old 04-24-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Zipperfoot,
In response to your question about always seeking car improvement.
Here is my 2 Cents.
Many people find it hard to believe that their car through some modifications can't really be improved any more. Its human nature to want to think you have the ability to always improve a device (car in this case).
Part manufacturers will always try to make improved parts (so they say) even though by just driving a bit more carefully or skillfully will result in fast laps.
As much as anyone wants to think, these cars do have some wiggle in suspension parts, wheels, etc. Does anyone think that a very minor part such as a thin washer in a suspension piece will make that much difference when many suspension parts have some minor play.
We all want that slight advantage over the competition, I find the hobby to be enjoyable when I relax, enjoy my race friends and realize this is whats important, not a 1mm play or adjustment on a small part.
Track conditions, tires and tire wear, and driving skill make more difference IMO.

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Old 04-24-2012 | 03:42 PM
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Thats all fine and dandy, but when will the springs be in stock?
On sale now.

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Old 04-24-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Having a bit of an issue trying to get full wheel travel left to right from the steering servo. I have EPAs set to 150% which provides plenty to the right but not enough to the left. Ended up moving the horn one tooth to the left and that almost did the trick but after readjusting the subtrim, I'm still a smidge off. Outside of cutting the ball cups a bit shorter to bring the rack over manually, I'm about out of ideas. Any suggestions?
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