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Old 10-09-2012 | 09:31 PM
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You guys don't have to shave the shock towers to install these. I installed mine with the spacers and bolts provided, may not necessarily be per exact instruction, but mine do not rub at all.



Front with .090" black spacer per instruction:


Rear not per instruction, 1 .030" silver spacer top on long mounting stub (don't really need it, am going to shorten up the gap) and 1 .090" black spacer bottom. Barely, but still clears the turnbuckle with C hub:
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Old 10-09-2012 | 09:42 PM
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this question has probably been asked before...but i have an indoor race this weekend and i need gearing suggestions for a Shurre 17.5T motor running on a blinkie mode LRP esc. this is the 1st indoor season running my AE WC...any help would be appreciated.
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Old 10-09-2012 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dork Missile
this question has probably been asked before...but i have an indoor race this weekend and i need gearing suggestions for a Shurre 17.5T motor running on a blinkie mode LRP esc. this is the 1st indoor season running my AE WC...any help would be appreciated.
Try 33/72 Motor 33-35 timing. Pretty decent starting point with out knowing what kind of jumps you need to clear ect..
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Old 10-09-2012 | 10:51 PM
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33/72 is a very good starting point. I would up the motor timing 35-38, but ALWAYS temp, run, and temp again.

Originally Posted by Dork Missile
this question has probably been asked before...but i have an indoor race this weekend and i need gearing suggestions for a Shurre 17.5T motor running on a blinkie mode LRP esc. this is the 1st indoor season running my AE WC...any help would be appreciated.
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Try 33/72 Motor 33-35 timing. Pretty decent starting point with out knowing what kind of jumps you need to clear ect..
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Old 10-09-2012 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bilster44
Unless your B4's are too locked in, why wouldn't you run the C tower? Not to mention the spring/tie rod clearance with the big bores.
You overlooked the guys question. He is asking how it will effect the handling if he mounts the C tower on the other side of the hub.
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Old 10-10-2012 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bilster44
It will make your car more controllable...do it, you'll like it. And for those that may have forgotten why AE made the "C" tower...here you go:
  • New option C tower in 2.5mm carbon fiber.
  • Lowers outer link positions for lower roll center.
  • Provides more rear end stability.
  • Used by Ryan Cavalieri and Ryan Maifield at the 2011 Reedy Race of Champions on the B4.1 buggy.
  • For the B4, B4.1, B44, T4, T4.1, SC10.
However, this is if you do not shave your U-brace.

Otherwise, if you shave the U-brace then the roll center will actually be higher and the car will be much more willing to rotate which is usually better when traction is good. This is all at the expense of some rear end stability.
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Old 10-10-2012 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
Ok, a member, rigor, posted pics a littwhile back where it the turnbuckle was running the rear shocks. I'm having the same problem. After encountering that problem, I shaved the rear tower and only put on the rtr shock bushings w/out the spacer up top and the two washers on bottom and the turnbuckle is still hiring the spring.

What could I do?

Will it make my car uncontrollable if I put the c hubs on the back of the rear hub? I did that and it doesn't hit, could I do that?
There is technically nothing wrong with running the C hub towers on the back of the hubs. The angle of the link is not an issue since it will still be in the same plane, however the issue that could arise is if some how you exceed the range of motion of the ball cups which could then cause them to bind or pop off more easily.

One thing I have thought of doing but haven't tried was just swapping my left and right hubs (W/ C towers). Since the hubs are 0 degree, then there should be no issue with this and it creates a LOT of clearance for the spring but I have not actually run this yet. A note though is that this would only work on 0 degree hubs (otherwise when you flip other hubs you will have toe out.)
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Old 10-10-2012 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ilanstylz
Can people post pics of their big bore install's? I haven't had time to build/install mine yet and would just like some pics to see how those are installing them either shaving a little to alot of the towers, or using spacers etc....... Thanks in advance it'd be greatly appreciated.........
Here's a few install pics. My theory was shaving parts is bad and changing geometry is bad so I'm going to do a little of each as to not do to much of one. I'm happy with results. Will most likely be going to lunsford quick tune shock mounts as I'm really not liking the metal on metal action. What pivot ball would be suggested for these?!
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Old 10-10-2012 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by associatevalley
Here's a few install pics. My theory was shaving parts is bad and changing geometry is bad so I'm going to do a little of each as to not do to much of one. I'm happy with results. Will most likely be going to lunsford quick tune shock mounts as I'm really not liking the metal on metal action. What pivot ball would be suggested for these?!
may i ask how did you get all the red and make the wing mounts
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Old 10-10-2012 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by swalesy09
may i ask how did you get all the red and make the wing mounts
custom anodising?
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Old 10-10-2012 | 05:52 AM
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This might have been done before but this takes the slop out of the hubs using the small button head screw used two hold hinge pins in .. perfect lenghth... also used both 1mm blue hub spacers

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Old 10-10-2012 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bilster44
It will make your car more controllable...do it, you'll like it. And for those that may have forgotten why AE made the "C" tower...here you go:
  • New option C tower in 2.5mm carbon fiber.
  • Lowers outer link positions for lower roll center.
  • Provides more rear end stability.
  • Used by Ryan Cavalieri and Ryan Maifield at the 2011 Reedy Race of Champions on the B4.1 buggy.
  • For the B4, B4.1, B44, T4, T4.1, SC10.
Because it feels like crap?
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Old 10-10-2012 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tradin Paint
You overlooked the guys question. He is asking how it will effect the handling if he mounts the C tower on the other side of the hub.
You could also try keeping the tower in the stock location but flip the ballstud to the back and see if the tierod is at a funky angle.
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Old 10-10-2012 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OptimumRC
There is technically nothing wrong with running the C hub towers on the back of the hubs. The angle of the link is not an issue since it will still be in the same plane, however the issue that could arise is if some how you exceed the range of motion of the ball cups which could then cause them to bind or pop off more easily.

One thing I have thought of doing but haven't tried was just swapping my left and right hubs (W/ C towers). Since the hubs are 0 degree, then there should be no issue with this and it creates a LOT of clearance for the spring but I have not actually run this yet. A note though is that this would only work on 0 degree hubs (otherwise when you flip other hubs you will have toe out.)
Your saying the c hubs without the shaved brace is more traction and the c hub with the shaved brace is more rotation? If so, then I agree that it what it felt like to me. More rotation. And on low bite outdoor, it was crap.
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Old 10-10-2012 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by associatevalley
Here's a few install pics. My theory was shaving parts is bad and changing geometry is bad so I'm going to do a little of each as to not do to much of one. I'm happy with results. Will most likely be going to lunsford quick tune shock mounts as I'm really not liking the metal on metal action. What pivot ball would be suggested for these?!
Are those Tresrey spring adjusters?
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