So you'd recommend a 13.5? Got it. I was thinking that would be a good medium and I can still race Super Stock if I choose to :D

Just installed the Avid steering bellcranks in my F.T. last night. It sure looks SWEET along with my new Savox-1258TG servo. Wow, what a good looking pair :D

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5...0510133107.jpg


Now, all I need to get is the 4-pack of Avid clamping hexes, and I'll be good to go. Planning on ordering them Saturday along with a set of their cool looking Sabertooth wheels. :nod:

NICE!! I ordered this and the hex set the other day. I hope it shows up today so I can get them installed in time for Friday nights races or saturday!!

How does it feel now with it on? All the slop gone, was it easy to install?

Installing it wasn't hard at all. Just disassemble the stock steering rack, and install the 2 Avid pieces in place of the AE bellcranks. You will need to keep and reuse your stock plastic steering rack (Ackerman bar), and all of the hardware attached to it; as well as the plastic steering brace and all of the hardware attached to it. In addition, you can reuse the stock steering rack bearings. I found the following info and picture from the Avid site helpful during installation:

*Note from Avid site: Assemble the steering rack screws with blue thread lock. Also, if you tighten down the 2 BH screws to hold the steering rack and you feel a bind in the movement, it could be that the steel pivot bushings are too short. Slide a thin motor shim over the screw before installation and this will prevent the screw from clamping onto the rack and causing drag.*

http://www.avidrc.com/shop/images/pr...llcranks-2.jpg


Unfortunately, I haven't gotten a chance to try out the bellcranks yet. I bought it from my LHS when I left the track the otherday, and installed it at home. I can't wait to try it out on Tuesday at practice!

just curious how the electronics are in the stock brushed rtr model,going to pick up one of these and or the losi act,i run the worlds car so I'm partial to ae but i just need something that will be solid out of the box and ran with a lipo,this will be ran by my 5 year old boy

If it is for your young son, I think that the stocked brushed model would be ok for him to learn on. However, it is a brushed motor, so it is gonna be pretty slow (he might not need the speed right now, but it's not bad to have for the future) and you will need to worry about maintancing and cleaning the motor. I mean, I personally think that it would be a better idea to buy the R.S. brushless model over the RTR brushed model. I believe it is less then $100 extra (if bought new), and that way you wont need to hassle with motor maintenance, and also if he get's good at it and want's to keep doing it, you won't need to buy him a better truck later. Heck, if you watch the "for sale" boards here on RCTech, I bet you could find a lightly used and well taken care of RS brushless SC10 for only about $200-$225. I understand that he is young, and doesn't need something incredible... but I believe it's worth paying just a tad more for a much better truck. The electronics on the RS truck are very solid and well built. You shouldn't have any issues with it at all. Hope it works out for you, I bet your son will have a BLAST :nod:

thanks for the tips,I'm just a little in a money crunch right now and thats why i was thinking of the brushed,eventually i will be adding a few things hear and there eventually do a tekin and mod motor so i could race it as a second class and when he wants to drive ill turn it wayyyyyyy down.

nevermind, found my answer...

That is why I don't have one yet. The slop is in the steering rack/ackerman bar


Your not limited to just JC wheels. Avid and DE make +3mm wheels and Proline is coming out with a set soon as well. PLus you can use Rulex rims, they just aren't +3mm offset.

Agree, spend the extra and get an RS model. Its a lot nicer truck with plenty of room to grow into. I'm actually on the look out for one for my son right now as well. I think he is past the slash and Im tired of fixing it.

I understand the whole "money cruch" thing wayyyyy too well; I am a 22 year old college student, live on my own, and have R/C as my #1 hobby :D
But yeah, if moneys really tight for you, and you just wanna get your son into R/C a bit, then the RTR brushed truck should work great for him. I mean, it is a Team Associated vehicle, so you know its gonna be excellent quality and the most "bang for your buck". I have seen a few young kids at my local track run the RTR brushed SC10, and have never seen them have issues with them (other then the one kid who literally never cleaned his motor and ended up ruining it). I believe when you first get a young kid into R/C, teaching them how to tear apart, maintanance, and care for their vehicle is just as important as learning how to drive :)

One of my fav things to do at the track is take the young kinds and show em how the right way works first hand. It awesome to see them scared to tear something apart, and then a few weeks later they are on the bench soldering and helping others fix problems!!

Yup, I agree.

The problem is still in that brushed motor. They went from the original bearings to bushing some where back there and the motors are really not very good at all. Oilite bushings are crap. No motor and I mean NO motor should have these things in them. I still like the idea of a decent used one of RC Tech. There are plenty of other fun things to maintain (shocks, diff, etc) that you shouldn't have to worry about a crappily built motor. Nothing will chase a new RC recruit away from the sport quicker than losing a race because your brush hung up or you snapped a brush spring.

I guess I was eye balling the Viper 13.5 because it's rated at 2,400kv so it has the torque of a 17.5 but I can gear it higher to get more speed out of it if I want. Correct me if I'm wrong but I read lower kv motors take better to high gearing than higher kv motors, is there any truth to that? :weird: Could be that Viper should have labeled the motor as a 17.5t if they state it to be a 2,400kv motor :confused: