Corally SP12M - 1:12th Ahoniemi Euros Spec
#46
12M Euro Questions
Hi All
This is being posted for a fellow racer (Grenade10) who lost his password to post.
1) With the shims as called for in the instructions, the T-Plate is
below the chassis by +/- 1mm. Is this correct?
2) The tweek screws are set into a adjuster bar. How much pre-load
should be on this? The bar bends as more pressure is applied.
3) Should the wider rear axel be used? What is the benefit by using
it? Better big asphalt tracks, small carpet tracks.
4) Is there any good type of bumper for the car?
Thanks
This is being posted for a fellow racer (Grenade10) who lost his password to post.
1) With the shims as called for in the instructions, the T-Plate is
below the chassis by +/- 1mm. Is this correct?
2) The tweek screws are set into a adjuster bar. How much pre-load
should be on this? The bar bends as more pressure is applied.
3) Should the wider rear axel be used? What is the benefit by using
it? Better big asphalt tracks, small carpet tracks.
4) Is there any good type of bumper for the car?
Thanks
#47
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
I can see your point
Matt, I,m really not trying to do a comparision, I'm not in the position to do that, in about 2-3 weeks I will, a friend of mine just purchaced one, and I wil be able to try it, get a good feel, since we set things up in the same way. I'm just trying to give newbies to the Corally a small input to the way a sp12m works, at least for me, and the versions that I have owned, what they are like, how they change to adjustments. It is just my opinion that the late great sp12ma, is not needed as the latest greatest thing, the non Corral, carbon GRP front end with the balloon rear end is just fine, the sp12m, with a graphite chassis, GRP T plate( 4 cell stock-19 turn ), is just fine.
I say all this in a respect of this, the hobby is in a low right now, and the last thing thatis needed is to make people think that they have to change to the latest greatest most expensive thing just because the pro's use it, this is what has happened in touring car, just to get in to a car now is pushing the $500 envolope, how do you tell a father of a 12-14 year old that wants into this great hobby your are going to look at spending maybe a $1000 to get the goods to race, and beacause he is new, going to crash, better have about $200 in the kitty for parts, all because that is what the pro's use, that they don't even pay for.
Just, again, my humble opinion.
Peter My son wanted spidey up
I say all this in a respect of this, the hobby is in a low right now, and the last thing thatis needed is to make people think that they have to change to the latest greatest most expensive thing just because the pro's use it, this is what has happened in touring car, just to get in to a car now is pushing the $500 envolope, how do you tell a father of a 12-14 year old that wants into this great hobby your are going to look at spending maybe a $1000 to get the goods to race, and beacause he is new, going to crash, better have about $200 in the kitty for parts, all because that is what the pro's use, that they don't even pay for.
Just, again, my humble opinion.
Peter My son wanted spidey up
#48
Tech Master
iTrader: (72)
F/S: Corally 12th Ahoniemi Euros
Hey guys, I have a MINT condition SP12M Ahoniemi kit for sale with a ton of parts, I have listed it on the For:Sale forum but as usual it gets bumped down the list so quickly. I thought I would make a quick post on this forum if anyone is interested.
Here are some pic's, please PM me if you have any questions. Asking $450 for evrything plus shipping. Will ship anywhere.
Cheers
Here are some pic's, please PM me if you have any questions. Asking $450 for evrything plus shipping. Will ship anywhere.
Cheers
#50
Originally Posted by MattW
Well, i have run an origional 12M (baloon) and did test a beam front end on it, and frankly i wouldn't even dream of going back to either, for my money the Euros car is a much better all round car.
The beam just gave less steering, was ok on really high grip tracks - in fact quite good, but not a lot of use otherwise.
The old back end is ok, i made a few national A finals running it, but it just didn't feel as good. It was best with the carbon T bar, but then this didn't work on bumpy tracks. The other issue is that you can't control bump and side damping independantly. Think it was probably even "easier" than the tube rear end, the car was probably safer on certain really flat tracks, the tube was defenetly more responsive.
The beam just gave less steering, was ok on really high grip tracks - in fact quite good, but not a lot of use otherwise.
The old back end is ok, i made a few national A finals running it, but it just didn't feel as good. It was best with the carbon T bar, but then this didn't work on bumpy tracks. The other issue is that you can't control bump and side damping independantly. Think it was probably even "easier" than the tube rear end, the car was probably safer on certain really flat tracks, the tube was defenetly more responsive.
Tosolini and Doseck ran the beam front in end in Cleveland which really seemed to help with the higher bite. Cleveland was not as high bite as usual so I think the wishbone suspension would have been a bit more aggressive as Toso mentioned somewhat of a push there.
We tested the beam frontend at The Gate the week before and it was definately better but Cleveland ended up being lower bite due to the bumps and such.
Jeff
#51
Originally Posted by rinkrat99
Hi All
This is being posted for a fellow racer (Grenade10) who lost his password to post.
1) With the shims as called for in the instructions, the T-Plate is
below the chassis by +/- 1mm. Is this correct?
2) The tweek screws are set into a adjuster bar. How much pre-load
should be on this? The bar bends as more pressure is applied.
3) Should the wider rear axel be used? What is the benefit by using
it? Better big asphalt tracks, small carpet tracks.
4) Is there any good type of bumper for the car?
Thanks
This is being posted for a fellow racer (Grenade10) who lost his password to post.
1) With the shims as called for in the instructions, the T-Plate is
below the chassis by +/- 1mm. Is this correct?
2) The tweek screws are set into a adjuster bar. How much pre-load
should be on this? The bar bends as more pressure is applied.
3) Should the wider rear axel be used? What is the benefit by using
it? Better big asphalt tracks, small carpet tracks.
4) Is there any good type of bumper for the car?
Thanks
Jeff
#52
Tech Elite
iTrader: (40)
12M Set Up
The posting by Rinkrat was for me.
I did get a response from Corally early this week. The instructions say to put two washers under the front mount and one under the back of the adjuster. With this set up, the T-bar is below the chassis about 1 - 1.5mm. In the past the T-bar was flush with the chassis, which is how the new one should be set as well. Just more washers.
Anyone have a good front bumber, as I do not have the eye sight and reaction to keep it off the wall and boards for 8min.
Thanks
I did get a response from Corally early this week. The instructions say to put two washers under the front mount and one under the back of the adjuster. With this set up, the T-bar is below the chassis about 1 - 1.5mm. In the past the T-bar was flush with the chassis, which is how the new one should be set as well. Just more washers.
Anyone have a good front bumber, as I do not have the eye sight and reaction to keep it off the wall and boards for 8min.
Thanks
#54
Tech Master
Jeff, yeah like i said, was good on really high grip tracks - but i've used it once in the last 3 years!! I guess it depends on the conditions that people race under, and individuals personal preferences. I was talking to a guy over the weekend that said he much prefers the beam over the wishbones.
#57
Tech Master
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Anyone having trouble damping the rear of your Ahoniemi car. I find the stock damping tubes very sloppy in fit and provide little damping with resorting to something really thick ...like 20K diff grease. I fixed the problem tonight with a set of cut down damping tubes from CRC. The tubes were drilled out and tapped 4-40 as to use AE ball cups that work with the stock corally ball studs....stock CRC tubes are setup for 2-56 hardware. I easily have triple the damping compared to stock tubes using the same lube in both
#58
Originally Posted by Lowrance
Anyone having trouble damping the rear of your Ahoniemi car. I find the stock damping tubes very sloppy in fit and provide little damping with resorting to something really thick ...like 20K diff grease. I fixed the problem tonight with a set of cut down damping tubes from CRC. The tubes were drilled out and tapped 4-40 as to use AE ball cups that work with the stock corally ball studs....stock CRC tubes are setup for 2-56 hardware. I easily have triple the damping compared to stock tubes using the same lube in both
Thanks for info. I will be doing this modification as well as I don't like the corally damper tubes as well.
Ronald
#60
Originally Posted by subman
Does anyone know the part number of the Batt trays that fit the new cells?
Ronald