Hot Bodies Cyclone
10-17-2006, 09:44 AM
#5836
We put up a few setups from Vegas using the BMI kit on Cyclone Depot after vegas, the link is in my sig. There is also the editiable pdf there as well.
I have added a few more setups, and I have another to add. I just have not had time yet. As always if anyone would like to contribute setups... [email protected]
It would also be pretty cool to have some reviews of all the new cyclone goodies that are out on the market.
I have added a few more setups, and I have another to add. I just have not had time yet. As always if anyone would like to contribute setups... [email protected]
It would also be pretty cool to have some reviews of all the new cyclone goodies that are out on the market.
10-17-2006, 10:02 AM
#5837
Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
Anyone have an editable setup sheet. I'll get to work if you do
10-17-2006, 05:05 PM
#5842
Thanks for the post Larry. The setup is actually very close to what I'm running without the BMI chassis (yet... ). But I'm running XRay 30lb spring up front and HPI Red 22.4lb rear. Same piston, oil wt. (except I don't run foam in bladder), same ride height, camber, caster, toe.. etc. Man... I can't wait for the BMI chassis!! 
10-17-2006, 06:55 PM
#5843
Tech Master
Anyone know where I can get a Surikarn edition at a reasonable price? 
10-17-2006, 09:05 PM
#5847
Originally Posted by Guo Chean
how do you measure uptravel 1mm? thanks
10-17-2006, 09:14 PM
#5848
Originally Posted by KilRuf
I'm not Larry, but what that means is the chassis will raise up 1mm before the tires lift off the ground. So if the rear ride height was say... 5mm. You lift up the chassis 1mm, the tires will just start to lift up off the ground (ride height guage would read 6mm at this point).
10-17-2006, 09:15 PM
#5849
Originally Posted by KilRuf
I'm not Larry, but what that means is the chassis will raise up 1mm before the tires lift off the ground. So if the rear ride height was say... 5mm. You lift up the chassis 1mm, the tires will just start to lift up off the ground (ride height guage would read 6mm at this point).
10-17-2006, 10:03 PM
#5850
Heres the ticket on the 2 different ways of measuring suspension extension.
Rubber Tires: Measure the height of the a-arm relative to the bottom of the chassis. Either by placing the chassis on a flat surface and using a ride height gauge, or by using the kit included tool. In either situation more suspension extension (droop screws unscrewed) is a numericall lower number.
Foam Tires: Measure the difference in ride height change needed until the droop screws limite extension. First measure ride height, then keep lifting on the chassis until the tires lift off the ground. the difference between this height and ride height is the droop. as in previous examples: ride height is 5mm, so you lift up the chassis to 6mm, which is 6-5=1mm droop.
Each method fits the situation. With rubber tires its best to measure the suspension itself since the tires are soft and deform, thereby changing diameters. So when you use the ride height method it is inaccurate to gauge when the tire lifts off the ground. Furthermore rubber tire diameter barely changes with wear (at least under race conditions).
The problem with measuring the suspension is when the tire sizes change. As the tire wears you have to adjust the ride height, which means you also need to adjuster your droop to keep the same amount of relative droop. Furthermore foam tires dont deflect much at all, so it is easy to tell when the tire lifts off the ground. in this way it is easy to keep the droop consistent for varying tire sizes.
Simply put: use the tool with rubber tires, and the lift method for foams.
Rubber Tires: Measure the height of the a-arm relative to the bottom of the chassis. Either by placing the chassis on a flat surface and using a ride height gauge, or by using the kit included tool. In either situation more suspension extension (droop screws unscrewed) is a numericall lower number.
Foam Tires: Measure the difference in ride height change needed until the droop screws limite extension. First measure ride height, then keep lifting on the chassis until the tires lift off the ground. the difference between this height and ride height is the droop. as in previous examples: ride height is 5mm, so you lift up the chassis to 6mm, which is 6-5=1mm droop.
Each method fits the situation. With rubber tires its best to measure the suspension itself since the tires are soft and deform, thereby changing diameters. So when you use the ride height method it is inaccurate to gauge when the tire lifts off the ground. Furthermore rubber tire diameter barely changes with wear (at least under race conditions).
The problem with measuring the suspension is when the tire sizes change. As the tire wears you have to adjust the ride height, which means you also need to adjuster your droop to keep the same amount of relative droop. Furthermore foam tires dont deflect much at all, so it is easy to tell when the tire lifts off the ground. in this way it is easy to keep the droop consistent for varying tire sizes.
Simply put: use the tool with rubber tires, and the lift method for foams.