Serpent 710
#2641
Tech Fanatic
Originally posted by InitialD
If it was cracked, then it would be easy job to fix.
If it was cracked, then it would be easy job to fix.
D, sorry that i broke my promise before.
This week I finish third in our local Lola shell race, but with 710
Its kinda hard you know, to go back to my 705 after cruising with this new snake.
#2642
Originally posted by GoldFinger
It should be OK without sanding as long as you dont see the blocked (usually grayish) mark on your chassis when you take off motor mount.
It should be OK without sanding as long as you dont see the blocked (usually grayish) mark on your chassis when you take off motor mount.
#2643
Originally posted by fastharry
My Impulse is a tank.....but thats 'cause it was based on 1/10 on road technology and parts....
You can't complain about the 710 being weaker...cause you cant have it both ways.....If you want a tank,race the HPI.......Light weight?.....get the tc3 or 710....Want to run a Mugen?..Look how many people complaing about the front suspension in that car being weak...
I complain that HPI's parts are too soft..but guess what,NO breakage on the boards.......
Serpent parts are stiffer?.....well.you have the answer..
I'm not saying one car is better than the rest...
but as cars get lighter...and faster,one thing between all the cars will stay constant in the universe....
YOU GOT TO STAY OFF THE BOARDS!!!
My Impulse is a tank.....but thats 'cause it was based on 1/10 on road technology and parts....
You can't complain about the 710 being weaker...cause you cant have it both ways.....If you want a tank,race the HPI.......Light weight?.....get the tc3 or 710....Want to run a Mugen?..Look how many people complaing about the front suspension in that car being weak...
I complain that HPI's parts are too soft..but guess what,NO breakage on the boards.......
Serpent parts are stiffer?.....well.you have the answer..
I'm not saying one car is better than the rest...
but as cars get lighter...and faster,one thing between all the cars will stay constant in the universe....
YOU GOT TO STAY OFF THE BOARDS!!!
well ok... stay off the boards! thats understandable.
but how about the oneway outdrive... mine cracked in half. this is not from the accident. my bumper broke with a slow front end hit. our local track is only 100 by 50 feet. very very small and i didn't hit the car from the straightaway. it was from the inside... from a 180 degree turn. so im talking 5-10 mph.
but then again.. i was just pissed. i'll keep the car and see whats gonna happen. and who knows... maybe this will be the best car after all. its too early to complain anyways
#2644
Tech Apprentice
my 710-
the only thing i can say i have had difficulty with is the steering setup,and the 2 speed adjustment.the steering was easily fixed
like everyone else has done (i assume).but the 2 speed i havent been able to nail.if i ease on the throttle to w.o.t i dont hear it shift.the same if i hammer the throttle...maybe its just me but on my tc3 i can hear a definative change in engine rpms and tone.
i have went through the book setup am i missing something ??
any input would be helpful
like everyone else has done (i assume).but the 2 speed i havent been able to nail.if i ease on the throttle to w.o.t i dont hear it shift.the same if i hammer the throttle...maybe its just me but on my tc3 i can hear a definative change in engine rpms and tone.
i have went through the book setup am i missing something ??
any input would be helpful
#2645
Tech Initiate
How come no one has mentioned the terrible push the car develops coming out of the turns? Yesterday we had four or five guys, including Serpent driver Scotty Gray racing the new 710, and we all had the same on power push coming out of the turns. Also the clutch is a problem Scotty's dad help me get mine working somewhat, and they are using the old gray clutch spring which we could not find one for me so I had to continue with the stock one!
Also, I broke the left rear lower arm during the main. My fault for tapping the concrete barrier on the straight away! But, again this was due to the push when I nailed the throttle!
I was pleased at how quickly I was able to replace this part though. It took all of 3 minutes flat!
Also, I broke the left rear lower arm during the main. My fault for tapping the concrete barrier on the straight away! But, again this was due to the push when I nailed the throttle!
I was pleased at how quickly I was able to replace this part though. It took all of 3 minutes flat!
#2646
Tech Apprentice
guys
when putting togethet your 710 what are the two plastic peices in bag D=939
also I see a lot of you guys have your 710 together and racing, how do you like it? and how does it compare to the other top cars out there?
when putting togethet your 710 what are the two plastic peices in bag D=939
also I see a lot of you guys have your 710 together and racing, how do you like it? and how does it compare to the other top cars out there?
#2647
Originally posted by JoshVilleneuve
How come no one has mentioned the terrible push the car develops coming out of the turns? Yesterday we had four or five guys, including Serpent driver Scotty Gray racing the new 710, and we all had the same on power push coming out of the turns. Also the clutch is a problem Scotty's dad help me get mine working somewhat, and they are using the old gray clutch spring which we could not find one for me so I had to continue with the stock one!
Also, I broke the left rear lower arm during the main. My fault for tapping the concrete barrier on the straight away! But, again this was due to the push when I nailed the throttle!
I was pleased at how quickly I was able to replace this part though. It took all of 3 minutes flat!
How come no one has mentioned the terrible push the car develops coming out of the turns? Yesterday we had four or five guys, including Serpent driver Scotty Gray racing the new 710, and we all had the same on power push coming out of the turns. Also the clutch is a problem Scotty's dad help me get mine working somewhat, and they are using the old gray clutch spring which we could not find one for me so I had to continue with the stock one!
Also, I broke the left rear lower arm during the main. My fault for tapping the concrete barrier on the straight away! But, again this was due to the push when I nailed the throttle!
I was pleased at how quickly I was able to replace this part though. It took all of 3 minutes flat!
tighten the rear diff... it will help
#2648
Tech Apprentice
with the steering throwing more to the left then the right, I saw someone post that they cut the arm down, but no matter how much I cut the arm down it still will not screw past the stop point of the arm so I cannot shorten the length, does anyone have any suggestions?
#2649
Re: my 710-
Originally posted by bowtieluv1
but the 2 speed i havent been able to nail.if i ease on the throttle to w.o.t i dont hear it shift.the same if i hammer the throttle...maybe its just me but on my tc3 i can hear a definative change in engine rpms and tone.
but the 2 speed i havent been able to nail.if i ease on the throttle to w.o.t i dont hear it shift.the same if i hammer the throttle...maybe its just me but on my tc3 i can hear a definative change in engine rpms and tone.
Perhaps the reason why you're not hearing the 2nd speed shift is because it could already have shifted early. What I did on mine is I tightened half a round in from the setting I set in Step 7.1.
At the end of the day, I counted the number of rounds from tightening the 2 screws with springs to be 5 rounds out.
#2650
Originally posted by JoshVilleneuve
How come no one has mentioned the terrible push the car develops coming out of the turns? Yesterday we had four or five guys, including Serpent driver Scotty Gray racing the new 710, and we all had the same on power push coming out of the turns.
How come no one has mentioned the terrible push the car develops coming out of the turns? Yesterday we had four or five guys, including Serpent driver Scotty Gray racing the new 710, and we all had the same on power push coming out of the turns.
Also, what tire diameters were you using? If you were using out of the box tires (66 mm) while maintaining your ride height, did you reset and adjusted your droop screws accordingly (especially front)? If the stock setup says 0 droop in front with 62 mm tires, you should set the front droop to +2 instead when you use 66 mm tires.
Originally posted by JoshVilleneuve
Also the clutch is a problem Scotty's dad help me get mine working somewhat, and they are using the old gray clutch spring which we could not find one for me so I had to continue with the stock one!
Also the clutch is a problem Scotty's dad help me get mine working somewhat, and they are using the old gray clutch spring which we could not find one for me so I had to continue with the stock one!
#2651
Originally posted by evlhdlts
tighten the rear diff... it will help
tighten the rear diff... it will help
#2652
Originally posted by rcjayy
with the steering throwing more to the left then the right, I saw someone post that they cut the arm down, but no matter how much I cut the arm down it still will not screw past the stop point of the arm so I cannot shorten the length, does anyone have any suggestions?
with the steering throwing more to the left then the right, I saw someone post that they cut the arm down, but no matter how much I cut the arm down it still will not screw past the stop point of the arm so I cannot shorten the length, does anyone have any suggestions?
I cut the metal (the stock rod linkage) down to 17 mm. Stock lenght of the rod linkage is 23 mm from tip to tip.
As for the plastic, I trimmed the length of the ball cups. The picture attached shows the top one being the original (and uncut) and the bottom one is the one that was trimmed.
This combo gives the total length of the ball cups and rod linkage assembly as 39.5 mm instead of 44.5 mm.
Also, I made the servo horn on the steering servo at 90 degrees to the servo linkage instead of 90 degrees to the servo casing at neutral.
#2653
Originally posted by Motorman
Ammdrew you never know. You know better than to ask that! You know exactly what I'm talking about.
Ammdrew you never know. You know better than to ask that! You know exactly what I'm talking about.
i will start with a diff, and go to a lockeed diff if i can keep my times down..
#2654
Tech Initiate
Were you guys using the stock kit tires? I think they are 40 shore front and 35 shore rear. I think that could be your problem. Too much rear grip. I changed the tires to my own and used 40 shore front and rear. No on power pushing.
Also, what tire diameters were you using? If you were using out of the box tires (66 mm) while maintaining your ride height, did you reset and adjusted your droop screws accordingly (especially front)? If the stock setup says 0 droop in front with 62 mm tires, you should set the front droop to +2 instead when you use 66 mm tires.
Actually , I started out with Ellegi 40's then went to 37's and yesterday went back to 40.
What has had the most success so far was raising the front roll center! Next we are working with lowering the rear roll center!
Tire size is 60 mm f/r.
As far as the rear diff, I started out with tight like my impulse pro. Did not work well. When I loosened the rear diff it actually improved and then I am tightening it up as other adjustments improve the handling!
Also, what tire diameters were you using? If you were using out of the box tires (66 mm) while maintaining your ride height, did you reset and adjusted your droop screws accordingly (especially front)? If the stock setup says 0 droop in front with 62 mm tires, you should set the front droop to +2 instead when you use 66 mm tires.
Actually , I started out with Ellegi 40's then went to 37's and yesterday went back to 40.
What has had the most success so far was raising the front roll center! Next we are working with lowering the rear roll center!
Tire size is 60 mm f/r.
As far as the rear diff, I started out with tight like my impulse pro. Did not work well. When I loosened the rear diff it actually improved and then I am tightening it up as other adjustments improve the handling!
#2655
Tech Initiate
Actually , I started out with Ellegi 40's then went to 37's and yesterday went back to 40.
What has had the most success so far was raising the front roll center! Next we are working with lowering the rear roll center!
Tire size is 60 mm f/r.
As far as the rear diff, I started out with tight like my impulse pro. Did not work well. When I loosened the rear diff it actually improved and then I am tightening it up as other adjustments improve the handling!
What has had the most success so far was raising the front roll center! Next we are working with lowering the rear roll center!
Tire size is 60 mm f/r.
As far as the rear diff, I started out with tight like my impulse pro. Did not work well. When I loosened the rear diff it actually improved and then I am tightening it up as other adjustments improve the handling!