Mugen MBX6
#4066
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Really had the chance to run my buggy hard this weekend. I really like it alot but notice it tends to "push" off-throttle in corners. On-throttle its great, but off-throttle it runs wide...
Curious which adjustments would make a difference in this area? I'm running the stock set-up on a hard-packed track with a bit of dust on top...
TIA
Curious which adjustments would make a difference in this area? I'm running the stock set-up on a hard-packed track with a bit of dust on top...
TIA
#4067
Tech Addict
if you lower your front diff oil, it can help eliminate some of that push.
for instance if you are running 7-5-2, try 5-5-2, or if you are running 5-5-2, then try 4-5-2.
check your camber, -2 camber up front, -2.5 in the rear.
for instance if you are running 7-5-2, try 5-5-2, or if you are running 5-5-2, then try 4-5-2.
check your camber, -2 camber up front, -2.5 in the rear.
#4068
How much time is on the car. They break in a little bit.
If you want more off throttle steering, try adjusting it in with the suspension first, diffs are for dealing with power, suspension is for chassis balance. If you go a step lighter all around on the shocks you'll find you get more weight transfer, most are running the damping WAY heavy on this car. 400f/350r is probably the limit for oil weight for stock pistons, any heavier and the suspension barely works, rebound is extremely slow.
If you want more off throttle steering, try adjusting it in with the suspension first, diffs are for dealing with power, suspension is for chassis balance. If you go a step lighter all around on the shocks you'll find you get more weight transfer, most are running the damping WAY heavy on this car. 400f/350r is probably the limit for oil weight for stock pistons, any heavier and the suspension barely works, rebound is extremely slow.
#4069
Really had the chance to run my buggy hard this weekend. I really like it alot but notice it tends to "push" off-throttle in corners. On-throttle its great, but off-throttle it runs wide...
Curious which adjustments would make a difference in this area? I'm running the stock set-up on a hard-packed track with a bit of dust on top...
TIA
Curious which adjustments would make a difference in this area? I'm running the stock set-up on a hard-packed track with a bit of dust on top...
TIA
Last edited by Revooooooo; 06-24-2009 at 04:37 PM. Reason: Wrong setup sheet.
#4070
Try a lighter front sway bar as well. The stock set-up was good and all, but it was off quite a bit for me. I went with the Kenji Osaka Futaba Tract 08 setup and just a few minor tweaks from there. Knowing where you are racing at, it should work well there as well. You may just have to change the shock oil going from RCHL and then to Rat. I have seen the layout and the jumps look nothing like Watkins, so the softer setup should help out. Have you asked Rizzle or Chenzo what they were running? I am guessing it is probably close to Kenji's. Let me know how it turns out.
#4071
Can anyone tell me what the upper,lower,and center upper arm positions do to the cars handling??? Thanks..
#4072
Really had the chance to run my buggy hard this weekend. I really like it alot but notice it tends to "push" off-throttle in corners. On-throttle its great, but off-throttle it runs wide...
Curious which adjustments would make a difference in this area? I'm running the stock set-up on a hard-packed track with a bit of dust on top...
TIA
Curious which adjustments would make a difference in this area? I'm running the stock set-up on a hard-packed track with a bit of dust on top...
TIA
Drop the front oil to 5k, put the 2mm spacers on the front side of the front lower arms, move the rear hubs all the way back, rear arms spaced all the way back, 2 degrees max front camber, and use the right tires. I run my car like this all the time now. Steers like a Losi.
#4073
I did EVERYTHING to get my car to hook off power on our dusty track. Extending the rear of the car worked great to put more weight on the front, but dropping the front diff oil to 5k sealed the deal.
High bite track, I liked the 7k..
#4074
i use 5-7-3 in my diffs 32.5 losi frt and 27.5 losi in the rear shocks with stock springs and pistons. mine turned like a losi too but i fixed it and now it turns a mbx6 (much better).
#4075
Tech Apprentice
Hi,
I have as well some issues with my diff setup of my MBX6.
First I tried the default setup 7 5 2 and it was ok but a lot of oversteering and the front tires hat double of wearout as the rear tires.
So I changed the setup to 7 7 5 and now it seams that I have even more oversteering as before.
What do you recommend?
Some racers in Europe are using diff setups like 20 20 10 or 20 15 10 or similar. Never seen some post here on rctech.net. Why?
I am totally confused in which direction I should go.
And I think it's really hard to try "every setup" between 5 5 2 and 20 20 10 ;-)
Hope I get some feedback here
Cheerio
racer_hh
I have as well some issues with my diff setup of my MBX6.
First I tried the default setup 7 5 2 and it was ok but a lot of oversteering and the front tires hat double of wearout as the rear tires.
So I changed the setup to 7 7 5 and now it seams that I have even more oversteering as before.
What do you recommend?
Some racers in Europe are using diff setups like 20 20 10 or 20 15 10 or similar. Never seen some post here on rctech.net. Why?
I am totally confused in which direction I should go.
And I think it's really hard to try "every setup" between 5 5 2 and 20 20 10 ;-)
Hope I get some feedback here
Cheerio
racer_hh
#4076
track
Hi,
I have as well some issues with my diff setup of my MBX6.
First I tried the default setup 7 5 2 and it was ok but a lot of oversteering and the front tires hat double of wearout as the rear tires.
So I changed the setup to 7 7 5 and now it seams that I have even more oversteering as before.
What do you recommend?
Some racers in Europe are using diff setups like 20 20 10 or 20 15 10 or similar. Never seen some post here on rctech.net. Why?
I am totally confused in which direction I should go.
And I think it's really hard to try "every setup" between 5 5 2 and 20 20 10 ;-)
Hope I get some feedback here
Cheerio
racer_hh
I have as well some issues with my diff setup of my MBX6.
First I tried the default setup 7 5 2 and it was ok but a lot of oversteering and the front tires hat double of wearout as the rear tires.
So I changed the setup to 7 7 5 and now it seams that I have even more oversteering as before.
What do you recommend?
Some racers in Europe are using diff setups like 20 20 10 or 20 15 10 or similar. Never seen some post here on rctech.net. Why?
I am totally confused in which direction I should go.
And I think it's really hard to try "every setup" between 5 5 2 and 20 20 10 ;-)
Hope I get some feedback here
Cheerio
racer_hh
hey mate really depends what sort of track u running.
on dirt / grass stock set up was superb.
on astro 10, 7,3 is good.
#4077
Tech Apprentice
If you look at the mid mugen page http://www.mid-mugen.eu/ you can have a look to the setup sheets in the download section.
One is really extreme 30k 30k 5k
You recommend 10k 7k 3k and can somebody explain the difference to 10k 10k 3k in theory?
Thanks
Sascha
One is really extreme 30k 30k 5k
You recommend 10k 7k 3k and can somebody explain the difference to 10k 10k 3k in theory?
Thanks
Sascha
#4078
I tried some of the heavier front/center diff oils, and on tight dusty tracks the front end would push like crazy. If it was loamy, blue groove, or more sweeping corners it was great.
I would compare here.
http://www.mugenracing.com/image/mbx...setupsheet.pdf
The chassis setup I've found to work for me is most all conditions is close to Drew Mollers setup.
I would compare here.
http://www.mugenracing.com/image/mbx...setupsheet.pdf
The chassis setup I've found to work for me is most all conditions is close to Drew Mollers setup.
#4079
I'm running a setup about the same as Drew's (softer shocks than most are running) except I have 5/7/2 in my diffs and 10.75r/9.75f (updated kit springs). I will try 3k in the rear next. Car is really good and I think it can still be better.
I liked 5-5-2 but the car didn't seem very positive on throttle, like the canter diff couldn't decide which way to send the power. I've always liked 7k in the center diff of every car I've owned though.
I liked 5-5-2 but the car didn't seem very positive on throttle, like the canter diff couldn't decide which way to send the power. I've always liked 7k in the center diff of every car I've owned though.
#4080
Donny what dif oil are you running now? You coming out sunday? Was a lite turn out last race but still fun! I saw some DH bike in the back of your truck a few weeks ago by front page and wondered what you were up to?? You going out tomorow?