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Old 04-29-2008, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NickM
The WCE is much higher spec, with all the hop-up parts you'd need to buy for the TC... Remember, the TC was designed to be a low-cost, entry level car, so they left off all the good bits. The only problem is they also forgot to lower the price tag...

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Thanks,actually didn't realize the TC was/is an entry level car.Haven't seen much fact about to be honest.Just that it's the new car.And yes,you're right about the price tag.Looks like a WCE for me.Mario.
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Id say its a tough call, mainly cause the TC has the new diff, which is probably worth getting.

I dont think its that much lower a spec the main thing which bugs me is that the turnbuckles are not titanium, however, if you are not running 5 cell mod or your car is underweight anyway its probably not gunna be that much of an issue.
Also with the delrin diff halves on the TC you are probably better off upgrading to aluminium if you are racing 19T or a faster motor.

The cyclone S is the entry level car, the TC is more of a standard race spec car as opposed to the WCE which is fully optioned.
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Going to be running stock...Maybeeee??? 19turn.Mario.
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So i wonder what happens to all Andy's old kits
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Originally Posted by mild seven
I doubt it is necessary for every big event. he probably does it just coz he can get a new kit for every event. after about 6 months of racing Mod the car can get a bit 'wobbly' and so its hard to compete with a car that pretty much changes every run.
wobbly? How?
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:36 AM
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Its plain to see he means it developes slop.Needs to be rebuilt with fresh plastic.
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Originally Posted by racenut123
Its plain to see he means it developes slop.Needs to be rebuilt with fresh plastic.
fresh plastic? But the parts are all graphite. So what happens to the graphite after mod racing?
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The parts in reality are a matrix of plastic and carbon.They are not just carbon fiber.So I mean it needs new plastic ie, arms, knuckles, c-hubs, uprights, ball cups, etc.


BTW,did anyone else see the pics of Hara's car form the Worlds warm up? He ran a cyclone S bottom deck.Wonder what he was testing that for.
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Alright I guess that makes more sense! So over time the mod motors bend/flex the suspension parts/ball cups? Why not replace those parts instead of replacing the entire kit?
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because he can
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When you get free kits why would you take the risk, those guys know how to build an immaculate car from scratch.

Even at club level i know a mod driver who rebuilds his car after every meet if possible. Parts wear (uni cross joints, pulleys, belts) and get damaged. He's not the best for nothing and the top level guys do things to the smallest detail.
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thought so! its making much more sense now! bent CVD's, worn joints, old bearings, bent hinge pins, bulkheads, tweaked chassis, worn ball cups, old & stretched belts, warped outdrives,etc.

Looks like I will be buying fresh kits every season then.
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Originally Posted by racenut123
The parts in reality are a matrix of plastic and carbon.They are not just carbon fiber.So I mean it needs new plastic ie, arms, knuckles, c-hubs, uprights, ball cups, etc.


BTW,did anyone else see the pics of Hara's car form the Worlds warm up? He ran a cyclone S bottom deck.Wonder what he was testing that for.
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I didnt see that lol, sounds interesting
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Originally Posted by mangoman
Id say its a tough call, mainly cause the TC has the new diff, which is probably worth getting.

I dont think its that much lower a spec the main thing which bugs me is that the turnbuckles are not titanium, however, if you are not running 5 cell mod or your car is underweight anyway its probably not gunna be that much of an issue.
Also with the delrin diff halves on the TC you are probably better off upgrading to aluminium if you are racing 19T or a faster motor.

The cyclone S is the entry level car, the TC is more of a standard race spec car as opposed to the WCE which is fully optioned.
I stand corrected by mangoman. Perhaps I overstressed the difference in the level of kit. I'm just surprised that the new supposedly top-level HB car is missing a bunch of top-level bits. I mean, yes it's got the diff that the cyclone should have had since its inception - one that won't break diff screws every five minutes - but then they go and put delrin out drives on it instead of aluminium...
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here you go.
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