goots

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tamiya legacy b4, sorex 36r pre-mounts, track temps around 110 degrees. Car is easy to drive smooth and never loose. Med grip track. I like to dive into the corners but the car atm tends to push. Is there a setup change for me to create a little more over steer?

Front
pink springs
40wt AE oil
4 position on front tower
outside hole on front pro4 arm
1.4 front sway bar
1.5 front block
droop 2mm on blocks
1.0mm under all front suspension blocks.
4mm ackerm
3mm spacer under front camber tie rod
2 of camber
5.5mm ride height

Rear
silver springs
40wt AE oil
#2 pistons
4 on the shock tower
middle hole on old pro 4 arm
1.2 rear sway bar
3.0 rear block
droop 3-3.5mm
1.5 mm shims under all suspension blocks.
rear hub spacers 0.75 in front 2.0 in rear
2mm spacer under rear camber tie rod
arms all the way back (spacers in front of arms)
2 degrees of camber
6mm ride height

warnos

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Thanks I have a pair of the standard HB MIP CVDs but also have a spare single which I puchased with some spare parts.. it has a titanium end (the threaded side that goes into the wheel which is usually black) anyone know what this is off?? or who makes it?? It looks just like the HB MIP CVD but has a titanium end..

Also I have heard that there is a Losi MIP CVDs which fit the cyclone.. is this correct?

Cheers

Hi-LowBlow

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That would help if you could give us a bit more track info. but here are my suggestions to try...

Let me know after you try it.
Thanks,

Korey Harbke

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+1 on all the changes Hiro mentioned.

-Korey

trickd122

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So Korey or Hiro

Based on what was said with the setup suggestions. It seems as though there is a relationship that works best with a certain amt of camber gain vs. shock position.

mac853

Could anybody tell me is any good if running with short camberlink?
In fact somebody from 4000Kv gave me the setup then i didn't run yet with it in my 3000KV class, due my car is still totally disassemble.

Best regards

Hi-LowBlow

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Yes, there is a relation that works the best with a certain suspension leverage. When we think about camber angle, there are two different things that are "static camber" and "dynamic camber (camber change)".

I suggest you to try as many combo as possible and feel the difference. You should feel like laying down the shocks like less camber change while the standing shock likes more camber gain.

Also, it also depends where the static (as 1G) piston position is.

Hope it helps.

goots

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Ill give it a try this weekend since its a by week. The track is a little bumpy with banked sweepers on each end. Thats why I keep the front ride height to either 5.5 - 6mm cuz it just scrapes and drag in those sections. Heres a link to the track and a youtube link to our 17.5 A main.

boxcarracing.org/RC_Car_Racing/rc_car_racing.html#RCraceinfo
youtube.com/user/ocsdriver

trickd122

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Issue off power loose:

Tires Cs27

Front
Orange Serpent springs (19.5)
35wt Losi oil 3 hole 1.1
4 position on front tower
1.4 front sway bar
1.5 front toe block
1.5mm under all front suspension blocks.
4mm ackerm
3mm spacer under front camber tie rod
1.5 of camber
5mm ride height
-1 toe
Droop 6mm
Ride height: 5mm

Rear
silver springs
35wt AE oil
3 hole pistons
4 on the shock tower
1.2 rear sway bar
3.0 rear block
droop 5mm
1.5 mm shims under all suspension blocks.
rear hub spacers 2.0 in front 0.75 in rear
1 mm spacer under rear camber tie rod
2.0nn in front of arms 0.75 in the rear
2 degrees of camber
5.5mm ride height

joey

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is your rear droop over ride height? if so i would think taking some out would keep the car from getting on the nose when the weight transfers

charlie_b

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Off topic..kinda...how are those Sweep tires compared to Sorex?

trickd122

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Turn the droop screws IN or OUT lol
and I measured the droop using droop block not over ride height...

michael.branth

Given the choice I would go with sorex, I find the sweeps a little bit unpredictabl on the edge. Sorex32 seem to work in just about every situation.

michael.branth

I ve had a similar issue, the xray guide recommends more akerman effect- less spacers, I ve not tried this but its what I will be trying next week. May be give that a shot?

michael.branth

I am not one for the new car talk.......but what would you like on the new or next generation cyclone, for me:

Lipo Chassis ( exotek style...maybe)

Motor mount some thing like mi4 to keep tweak equal side to side and extra adjustment for weight balence, even better if this could be a 'mod' for curennt chassis

More tunabilty for suspension blocks, may be new hole in chassis but also hole so that currennt blocks would fit.

That would be it for me