billythekid

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Hi Dave, it could be caused by quite a few possible reasons.

Is your track asphalt or carpet? What were the track conditions when the problem occured? High grip, low grip, dusty?

Have you tried brand new tires?

OZDC

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Thanks Bill,

Its a med-high grip asphalt track with a few bumps.
New tyres don't fix it.

I realise it could be a million things but as this is something that has just started happening with the same setup and track it makes me wonder if it has something to do with the new diff or drive shafts, or maybe the steering linkage is hitting the toe block.


I'll be testing these out but I was wondering if anyone had similar issues.

thanks again

Dave

billythekid

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Hi Dave, if the problem was caused by mechanical problems such as the diff or drive shafts, you should be able to diagnose them at the bench. After you are sure all mechanical components are working properly, then only you focus on the setup. This way, at least you can narrow down the source of the problem.

From my experience, if the car spun out unexpectedly, the problem is most likely caused by one of the followings:

1) The rear end roll too much, relative to the front end. This usually occur when the traction is high.

2) The rear end roll too little, relative to the front end. This usually occur when the traction is low.

3) The tires wore unevenly. This could be caused by not swapping the tires correctly.

So, try new set of tires to eliminate #3, then pay attention to see if the problem was caused by #1 or #2.

Also try running more camber at the rear end, or increase camber change at the rear end relative to he front.

Remember, traction is generated by the interactions between the track surface and the tire surface, so always pay attention to how the set of tire is interacting with the track surface at that specific moment.

Post your setup here and I am sure a lot of guys could help give you some suggestions.

Hope the above helps

PrimeAKF11

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Dave,

I had a similar problem on a local carpet track a few weeks ago. The car was pushing badly at some corners yet was spinning out at the rest. Turned out that chassis tweak was what was causing the problem. A local racer straightened it out for me and no further problems.

I realize there could be many things that may be causing the problem but it's worth checking if you haven't already.

EJ20

Hi Dave,

Like the previous post said, chassis tweaked will cause a spin out problem. And if I'm you, I will also check every single part make sure they all in good condition, make sure there has no binding on the drive train, check every bearings, sway bar, and all the ball cup just for make sure besides the set up change. Hope this help.

SpidarX

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I just finished building my new Cyclone TC. I haven't had a chance to race it yet, but I got to take it out to an open parking lot. Man, it is awesome. It's so much better than what I had been formally racing (HPI Pro 2)! I set it up with one of Korey's low traction parking lot setups, and it was glued to the unpreped asphalt. Can't wait to race it! I'll post some pics when I can.

OZDC

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Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I actually put a new chassis on it before last race meet and rebuilt it from the ground up. Every time I get a knock i check the top deck and tweak.

I had another look at the POM outdrives on the front spool last night. One was a bit 'grabby' so i replaced it.

Hopefully I can get to the track in the next week or so to test.

Dave

Syber Serulean

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Syber Serulean

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Anyone able to fit the Team Epic 5000 40c battery or the IP5000 40c (same batt)? I looked at an SMC 5000 and grinding the bulkhead wouldnt work...id practically grind all the way through it. Would i have to buy the lipo bulkhead thing and how would that affect performance?

EJ20

I'd grind mine down to about 2.5 mm on the bulkhead and good enough to fit the IP5000 40c in with about .5 - 1mm clearance.

Yes, they are the same batt.

louis flood

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i think the upper deck will let the chassis flex a little more not having the arch of metal there and u can find the lipo decks for a good deal

Syber Serulean

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guess ill try grinding it. Best deal i could find though was $44 and this still alot for that thing :/

i also want to get the DCJs but those arent cheap either :/ :/ :/

louis flood

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ive got the lipo dek and the dcjs on there way

Syber Serulean

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boooo lol.

SpidarX

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I just fitted a Team Epic 5000 in a new Cyclone TC. I had to grind the upper bulkhead, but it was extremely easy. I really didn't have to grind that much off either. I don't think it's worth it to buy the lipo upper deck to fit this particular battery.