26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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03-13-2016, 08:57 AM
#2342
03-13-2016, 09:42 AM
#2343
Fwiw, many other brand's springs are "low frequency" too and if you go by spring rate, you can approximate just about any setup. I ran my RM car with AE springs and they got me where I wanted to go. Many of the TLR drivers are using the very expensive Kyosho springs too. The TLR LF springs are so close in rate from one to the next, you'd have a hard time detecting the difference without jumping 2-3 steps, anyway.
03-14-2016, 02:26 AM
#2345
Tech Initiate
Hello from NZ
Hello from all the way down in New Zealand! I've been running the 3.0 for just over a month now and have got it dialed! Coming from the 2.0 i could get it going fast but it was always a bit edgy and unpredictable. The 3.0 has definitely calmed things down.
My local club runs on an extremely high grip carpet and the other club we visit is a moderately high grip Astro turf. I must say, before I even ran the car I was asking about the carpet gearbox but now I'm not even so sure it's needed.
Here's a quick run down on setup.
Like everyone I've read on here I'm running yellow mini pins on the rear but on the front the best tyre we've found by far is the 6mik(unsure on name of pattern).
Front:
shocks 1.6x2 40wt standard spring (silver?)
Long Vla, long top arm, 2mm spacer each end.
Rear
shocks 1.7x2 35wt yellow.
Short wheelbase.
TLR gear diff, 2 gear 7k.
Rest of the car is basically kit setup
Car still has a slight on power push I'm trying to iorn out but I did set the fastest lap of the night so it can't really be that bad and with a 0.26 consistency in the 5min final I'm loving how forgiving it is.
Loving being back in front of the yokomos and s-works that have been leading the show here
My local club runs on an extremely high grip carpet and the other club we visit is a moderately high grip Astro turf. I must say, before I even ran the car I was asking about the carpet gearbox but now I'm not even so sure it's needed.
Here's a quick run down on setup.
Like everyone I've read on here I'm running yellow mini pins on the rear but on the front the best tyre we've found by far is the 6mik(unsure on name of pattern).
Front:
shocks 1.6x2 40wt standard spring (silver?)
Long Vla, long top arm, 2mm spacer each end.
Rear
shocks 1.7x2 35wt yellow.
Short wheelbase.
TLR gear diff, 2 gear 7k.
Rest of the car is basically kit setup
Car still has a slight on power push I'm trying to iorn out but I did set the fastest lap of the night so it can't really be that bad and with a 0.26 consistency in the 5min final I'm loving how forgiving it is.
Loving being back in front of the yokomos and s-works that have been leading the show here
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03-14-2016, 03:48 AM
#2347
Tech Initiate
03-14-2016, 05:54 AM
#2348
Here's my prep method for 2.4":
Pull foam inserts and rinse chalky residue with simple green, also scrub tires with simple green inside and out, rinse and blow dry with air compressor. Use alcohol swab to degrease the bead of each wheel and I use AKA tire glue with a second pass by dragging the straw into the corner between the rubber and wheel to form an extra layer of bonding agent and I've yet to break a bead within a full day of racing stock.
The 2.4" foams tend to be thinner (lower profile) and have less tendency to roll over in tight corners. We have a step down at my track where the 2.2" tires tend to make my car a little squirrely as I accelerate into the straight from the step down in the middle of a corner, and I don't have that problem with the 2.4" tires running same brand, tread and compound.
03-14-2016, 07:21 AM
#2349
Drop the spindles
Put all the spacers on top drop the spindle.... 
Hello from all the way down in New Zealand! I've been running the 3.0 for just over a month now and have got it dialed! Coming from the 2.0 i could get it going fast but it was always a bit edgy and unpredictable. The 3.0 has definitely calmed things down.
My local club runs on an extremely high grip carpet and the other club we visit is a moderately high grip Astro turf. I must say, before I even ran the car I was asking about the carpet gearbox but now I'm not even so sure it's needed.
Here's a quick run down on setup.
Like everyone I've read on here I'm running yellow mini pins on the rear but on the front the best tyre we've found by far is the 6mik(unsure on name of pattern).
Front:
shocks 1.6x2 40wt standard spring (silver?)
Long Vla, long top arm, 2mm spacer each end.
Rear
shocks 1.7x2 35wt yellow.
Short wheelbase.
TLR gear diff, 2 gear 7k.
Rest of the car is basically kit setup
Car still has a slight on power push I'm trying to iorn out but I did set the fastest lap of the night so it can't really be that bad and with a 0.26 consistency in the 5min final I'm loving how forgiving it is.
Loving being back in front of the yokomos and s-works that have been leading the show here
My local club runs on an extremely high grip carpet and the other club we visit is a moderately high grip Astro turf. I must say, before I even ran the car I was asking about the carpet gearbox but now I'm not even so sure it's needed.
Here's a quick run down on setup.
Like everyone I've read on here I'm running yellow mini pins on the rear but on the front the best tyre we've found by far is the 6mik(unsure on name of pattern).
Front:
shocks 1.6x2 40wt standard spring (silver?)
Long Vla, long top arm, 2mm spacer each end.
Rear
shocks 1.7x2 35wt yellow.
Short wheelbase.
TLR gear diff, 2 gear 7k.
Rest of the car is basically kit setup
Car still has a slight on power push I'm trying to iorn out but I did set the fastest lap of the night so it can't really be that bad and with a 0.26 consistency in the 5min final I'm loving how forgiving it is.
Loving being back in front of the yokomos and s-works that have been leading the show here
03-14-2016, 09:12 AM
#2350
:
Hello from all the way down in New Zealand! I've been running the 3.0 for just over a month now and have got it dialed! Coming from the 2.0 i could get it going fast but it was always a bit edgy and unpredictable. The 3.0 has definitely calmed things down.
My local club runs on an extremely high grip carpet and the other club we visit is a moderately high grip Astro turf. I must say, before I even ran the car I was asking about the carpet gearbox but now I'm not even so sure it's needed.
Here's a quick run down on setup.
Like everyone I've read on here I'm running yellow mini pins on the rear but on the front the best tyre we've found by far is the 6mik(unsure on name of pattern).
Front:
shocks 1.6x2 40wt standard spring (silver?)
Long Vla, long top arm, 2mm spacer each end.
Rear
shocks 1.7x2 35wt yellow.
Short wheelbase.
TLR gear diff, 2 gear 7k.
Rest of the car is basically kit setup
Car still has a slight on power push I'm trying to iorn out but I did set the fastest lap of the night so it can't really be that bad and with a 0.26 consistency in the 5min final I'm loving how forgiving it is.
Loving being back in front of the yokomos and s-works that have been leading the show here
My local club runs on an extremely high grip carpet and the other club we visit is a moderately high grip Astro turf. I must say, before I even ran the car I was asking about the carpet gearbox but now I'm not even so sure it's needed.
Here's a quick run down on setup.
Like everyone I've read on here I'm running yellow mini pins on the rear but on the front the best tyre we've found by far is the 6mik(unsure on name of pattern).
Front:
shocks 1.6x2 40wt standard spring (silver?)
Long Vla, long top arm, 2mm spacer each end.
Rear
shocks 1.7x2 35wt yellow.
Short wheelbase.
TLR gear diff, 2 gear 7k.
Rest of the car is basically kit setup
Car still has a slight on power push I'm trying to iorn out but I did set the fastest lap of the night so it can't really be that bad and with a 0.26 consistency in the 5min final I'm loving how forgiving it is.
Loving being back in front of the yokomos and s-works that have been leading the show here
03-14-2016, 11:03 AM
#2351
They used the angles steering AE ball cups on the inner rear camber link only to clear the shock from the turnbuckle with the arm/shock flip setup.
03-14-2016, 11:06 AM
#2352
Tech Adept
If I understand the your concept:
If my motor isn't too hot and esc is cooler than my motor temps...I can still gear up?
Based on my electronic setup/package and gearing...is that the correct interpretation?
03-14-2016, 11:10 AM
#2353
Has anyone installed the Exotek Racing TLR 22 3.0 Aluminum Steering Set (EXO1580)?
I guess i didn't pay attention to the way it operated with the stock steering system, but with the Exotek the bell cranks were sliding up and down on the posts.
After seeing this, i pulled it all apart, and thus lost a washer, can't reassemble until i get a replacement.
Is that normal operation?
I guess i didn't pay attention to the way it operated with the stock steering system, but with the Exotek the bell cranks were sliding up and down on the posts.
After seeing this, i pulled it all apart, and thus lost a washer, can't reassemble until i get a replacement.
Is that normal operation?
Last edited by thirtydaZe; 03-10-2017 at 09:11 AM.
03-14-2016, 12:05 PM
#2354
Tech Initiate
What's everybody's average weight coming in at with the battery installed and no real fancy titanium screws or anything like that? Mine is right in the 1620g range and I'm thinking my Racers Edge shorty battery might be the main reason why it's so heavy.