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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 01-30-2017, 08:17 PM   #4261
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I believe the 338004 is the complete carpet conversion, and the 005 is the conversion without the rear hubs? So correct me if I am wrong, but have you tried contacting TLR or even Frank Root on this thread, that would be in my opinion a lot easier if them parts are even available, but I would think they are
The newer one (ending in 5) is the dirt laydown. The original one was the carpet laydown. The new one has the standard height diff, meaning the standard hubs are correct so no need for new ones. The new one also has a slightly thicker body.
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The newer one (ending in 5) is the dirt laydown. The original one was the carpet laydown. The new one has the standard height diff, meaning the standard hubs are correct so no need for new ones. The new one also has a slightly thicker body.
thank you for the info, as was looking for laydown conversion and could not figure out why they wanted 50 dollars more for the 04 number, as I was thinking I seen a different part number for the dirt laydown, so whats the real difference between the two??
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:13 AM   #4263
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I see Dakota's CRCRC setup for the 22-4 2.0. Don't see the 22 3.0. Any chance that's available to post Frank?
I just followed them up to ensure it gets posted.
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I just followed them up to ensure it gets posted.
It is actually up there, you just need to clear your cache.
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It is actually up there, you just need to clear your cache.
Frank did you see the discussion above about replacement parts for the laydown conversion?
Some of the parts have the same part number that relate to the overall laydown conversion, obviously if you needed a new motor plate you wouldn't want to have to buy another full laydown kit. Any ideas on the individual part numbers?
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I've been searching this thread and will still keep doing so, but i just got a used but almost brand new 22 3.0 with the dirt laydown. I was wondering what all spares do you guys recommend having with you. Our track has an ok supply but i want to make sure i have the basics in my box. thanks!
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So you know our track shop has had everything I have broke and more. Even had stuff I ordered before I knew they carried it.

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Frank did you see the discussion above about replacement parts for the laydown conversion?
Some of the parts have the same part number that relate to the overall laydown conversion, obviously if you needed a new motor plate you wouldn't want to have to buy another full laydown kit. Any ideas on the individual part numbers?
Thanks daz_75 for the shout out to Frank.
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To even further confirm the speculation a 4.0 is being developed...
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Just purchased these and it didn't come with any chart stating which is better for what track. Any hints on where to find this info. Thanks in advance
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There are really 2 types. 1 and 2 are the same except 2 has a lower mount for more adjustability for bump. 3 is the standard setting.


1/2 seem to lengthen the tie rods just a bit compared to 3 which gave me more high speed but less low speed.
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To even further confirm the speculation a 4.0 is being developed...
I'd say so. The question is... do I go ahead and start offloading my 3.0 rigs now? I wonder if this will be a more incremental change than the change from 2.0 to 3.0 was. Oh well. Time will tell!
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If they come out with a new kit it will be based on the current design. It will use the 3.0 parts and have things like the laydown tranny, shocks in front of the arms in the rear ect. I doubt they will go ground up only a year after the 3.0 came out.
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If they come out with a new kit it will be based on the current design. It will use the 3.0 parts and have things like the laydown tranny, shocks in front of the arms in the rear ect. I doubt they will go ground up only a year after the 3.0 came out.
I agree. Maybe a 3.1 car. I don't think there is a need for a whole new design
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If they come out with a new kit it will be based on the current design. It will use the 3.0 parts and have things like the laydown tranny, shocks in front of the arms in the rear ect. I doubt they will go ground up only a year after the 3.0 came out.
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I agree. Maybe a 3.1 car. I don't think there is a need for a whole new design
My guess is it will be released as a new version of the 3.0, much like they did for the 3.0SR.

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I agree, still think it will be 3.0 based but it appears they already named it the 4.0 based on the screenshot for the 4.0 chassis that was posted earlier. I am betting a carpet and dirt version as well...
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