Serpent 710
04-21-2004, 10:06 PM
#8611
Originally posted by InitialD
I only used the aluminum part that comes with the upper graphite bumper top plate that goes to hold the grub screws for the front droop. I cut the stock plastic bumper top plate so that they are detached from the front bulkhead. The graphite part of the bumper top plate is too nice too use !
I only used the aluminum part that comes with the upper graphite bumper top plate that goes to hold the grub screws for the front droop. I cut the stock plastic bumper top plate so that they are detached from the front bulkhead. The graphite part of the bumper top plate is too nice too use !
That is why I bought the black graphite top plate and not the SSG one. 
04-21-2004, 10:18 PM
#8612
Well, yet again my bike training suffered at the expense of the 710 
All I have left to do now is to connect the steering, break and throttle linkages and tidy up the wiring 
Anyone using straight throttle and brake linkages? I was thinking of giving this a go.
As of now, with everything connect - no body on, no batteries and no fuel - the weight of my 710 is just over 1.5kg.
Cheers, Mark.
All I have left to do now is to connect the steering, break and throttle linkages and tidy up the wiring Anyone using straight throttle and brake linkages? I was thinking of giving this a go.
As of now, with everything connect - no body on, no batteries and no fuel - the weight of my 710 is just over 1.5kg.
Cheers, Mark.
04-21-2004, 10:25 PM
#8613
Originally posted by InitialD
I don't think there is any difference with regards to how the weight of the car is located with the location of the rear bottom arm. If there is, it's probably very insignificant.
I don't think there is any difference with regards to how the weight of the car is located with the location of the rear bottom arm. If there is, it's probably very insignificant.
jokes only
04-21-2004, 10:32 PM
#8614
Re: couple of option parts
Originally posted by Voodo_Magic
here are some pics of some option parts for the 710
The diff is much smoother than the standard
here are some pics of some option parts for the 710
The diff is much smoother than the standard
That aluminum diff adjuster facing the steel diff joint directly when moving?
04-21-2004, 10:33 PM
#8615
Originally posted by Pyramid
The center of gravity will which I believe effecting tracktion on that point. As fas as Michael`s setup, I believe he have not played too much with the car since I remember him saying that he first saw the car on Thailand when he just about to use it... if that is correct, man.. serpent really cares about his team driver until preparing some packers... jokes only
The center of gravity will which I believe effecting tracktion on that point. As fas as Michael`s setup, I believe he have not played too much with the car since I remember him saying that he first saw the car on Thailand when he just about to use it... if that is correct, man.. serpent really cares about his team driver until preparing some packers...
jokes only
04-21-2004, 10:35 PM
#8616
Originally posted by markp27
Well, yet again my bike training suffered at the expense of the 710 All I have left to do now is to connect the steering, break and throttle linkages and tidy up the wiring
Well, yet again my bike training suffered at the expense of the 710
All I have left to do now is to connect the steering, break and throttle linkages and tidy up the wiring
Pictures please ! 
Originally posted by markp27
Anyone using straight throttle and brake linkages? I was thinking of giving this a go.
Anyone using straight throttle and brake linkages? I was thinking of giving this a go.
Originally posted by markp27
As of now, with everything connect - no body on, no batteries and no fuel - the weight of my 710 is just over 1.5kg.
As of now, with everything connect - no body on, no batteries and no fuel - the weight of my 710 is just over 1.5kg.
04-21-2004, 10:36 PM
#8617
Originally posted by Eddie M
That is why I bought the black graphite top plate and not the SSG one.
That is why I bought the black graphite top plate and not the SSG one.
Well, they only had that here at the LHS...
04-21-2004, 10:37 PM
#8618
Re: Re: couple of option parts
Originally posted by Pyramid
That aluminum diff adjuster facing the steel diff joint directly when moving?
That aluminum diff adjuster facing the steel diff joint directly when moving?
04-21-2004, 10:40 PM
#8619
Originally posted by GlennCauley
Hi BaxterC,
Roll-center is probably one of the most under-utilized adjustments on a car, but one of the most powerful. Roll-centers have an immediate effect on a car’s handling, whereas anti-roll bars, shocks and springs require the car to roll before they produce an effect.
It is really great that Serpent realized this and made it very easy to adjust roll-center on the S710.
Here is some information about the effect of roll-center...
Front roll-center
Front roll center has most effect on on-throttle steering during mid-corner and corner exit.
Lowered front roll-center
* More on-throttle steering
* Car is less responsive
* Better on smooth, high grip tracks with long fast corners
Raised front roll-center
* Less on-throttle steering
* Car is more responsive
* Use in high grip conditions to avoid traction rolling
* Use on tracks with quick direction changes (chicanes)
Rear Roll-Center
Rear roll center affects on- and off-throttle situations in all cornering stages (entry, mid, exit)
Lowered rear roll-center
* More on-throttle grip
* Less grip under braking
* Use to avoid traction rolling at corner entry (increases rear grip)
* Use under low traction conditions
* Increases traction, reduces rear tire wear
Raised rear roll-center
* Less on-throttle steering
* Car is more responsive
* Use in high grip conditions to avoid traction rolling
* Use on tracks with quick direction changes (chicanes)
Hi BaxterC,
Roll-center is probably one of the most under-utilized adjustments on a car, but one of the most powerful. Roll-centers have an immediate effect on a car’s handling, whereas anti-roll bars, shocks and springs require the car to roll before they produce an effect.
It is really great that Serpent realized this and made it very easy to adjust roll-center on the S710.
Here is some information about the effect of roll-center...
Front roll-center
Front roll center has most effect on on-throttle steering during mid-corner and corner exit.
Lowered front roll-center
* More on-throttle steering
* Car is less responsive
* Better on smooth, high grip tracks with long fast corners
Raised front roll-center
* Less on-throttle steering
* Car is more responsive
* Use in high grip conditions to avoid traction rolling
* Use on tracks with quick direction changes (chicanes)
Rear Roll-Center
Rear roll center affects on- and off-throttle situations in all cornering stages (entry, mid, exit)
Lowered rear roll-center
* More on-throttle grip
* Less grip under braking
* Use to avoid traction rolling at corner entry (increases rear grip)
* Use under low traction conditions
* Increases traction, reduces rear tire wear
Raised rear roll-center
* Less on-throttle steering
* Car is more responsive
* Use in high grip conditions to avoid traction rolling
* Use on tracks with quick direction changes (chicanes)
Glenn, Thank you so much, this make a lot of sense, I really apreciate the in-depth explanation.
04-21-2004, 10:40 PM
#8620
Originally posted by InitialD
Excuses ! Pictures please !
Mine is pretty straight. As long as you get to clear the antenna tube and when at neutral the brakes do not bind, then it should be OK.
Ahah, perhaps it's the titanium screws at work !
Excuses !
Pictures please ! Mine is pretty straight. As long as you get to clear the antenna tube and when at neutral the brakes do not bind, then it should be OK.
Ahah, perhaps it's the titanium screws at work !
I know you would complain about this Did you bend the linkage rods at all? I've seen some pics somewhere of straight linkage rods, but I can't remember who posted them.
Oh yes, the full 16 gramm weight saving is coming into its own now
Although it may but upto 20 gramms now that I have bolted on the two servos (using only Ti screws of course)
04-21-2004, 10:45 PM
#8621
Originally posted by markp27
I didn't want to post any pictures of my 710 with all the wires hanging out I know you would complain about this
I didn't want to post any pictures of my 710 with all the wires hanging out
I know you would complain about this
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder !
Originally posted by markp27
Did you bend the linkage rods at all? I've seen some pics somewhere of straight linkage rods, but I can't remember who posted them.
Did you bend the linkage rods at all? I've seen some pics somewhere of straight linkage rods, but I can't remember who posted them.
Take a look at Glenn's article at mytsn on how to set the linkages. Pretty good guide.
Originally posted by markp27
Oh yes, the full 16 gramm weight saving is coming into its own now Although it may but upto 20 gramms now that I have bolted on the two servos (using only Ti screws of course)
Oh yes, the full 16 gramm weight saving is coming into its own now
Although it may but upto 20 gramms now that I have bolted on the two servos (using only Ti screws of course)
04-21-2004, 10:51 PM
#8622
Originally posted by Blue Sky
Yeah. Shipping cost is a little high but offset by the lower price. Let me know how the bumper top plate works out. I'll probably not put any hop-ups on the 710 and run it in stock form initially. Other thing I got from them is the serpent front ball diff set, which I'll use for smaller parking lot races where one-way will not work.
Ron
Yeah. Shipping cost is a little high but offset by the lower price. Let me know how the bumper top plate works out. I'll probably not put any hop-ups on the 710 and run it in stock form initially. Other thing I got from them is the serpent front ball diff set, which I'll use for smaller parking lot races where one-way will not work.
Ron
04-21-2004, 10:54 PM
#8623
Originally posted by InitialD
Excuses ! Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder !
Excuses !
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder !
The throttle yes. But the brake linkage not.
Take a look at Glenn's article at mytsn on how to set the linkages. Pretty good guide.
Take a look at Glenn's article at mytsn on how to set the linkages. Pretty good guide.
No screws on the throttle brake servo does wonders for me !
No screws! You're really running light!
04-21-2004, 10:56 PM
#8624
Originally posted by markp27
When you hear that, you know your ugly as hell
When you hear that, you know your ugly as hell
Originally posted by markp27
No screws! You're really running light!
No screws! You're really running light!
04-21-2004, 11:19 PM
#8625
Re: Re: couple of option parts
Originally posted by Voodo_Magic