"Ask" Jilles Groskamp Tamiya 416 & 417, Team Orion Motors
06-02-2010, 02:09 PM
#1111
Hello guys,
Just came back from two weeks of racing, one week of testing for Worlds in Germany and some days ETS racing before that.
- Stormperson
Normally most tyres work best with medium/soft feel of insert. A soft inserts gives more stable traction and prevent the rubber of overheating too much.
A hard inserts is faster but only works good when it is cooler.
- AZ416
Sometimes this happens that the wire comes unsoldered. This is most of the time that the motor gets too hot.
Try 12 AWG wire or solder with some silver.
Ofcourse it can be a faulty speedo but not sure.
- Extrememadness
I used the Serpent type of cleaning gum.
- P.I.M.P
My basic set-up should be always good starting point.
- soft springs, soft oil also helps for lower traction tracks.
- Mark
At this moment we test a lot of configuration with flipped belts, different chassis etc. This is the reason I had two cars at ETS but only was used for the picture. It's too close to the world champs now so not too much details can be revealed now. Don't know about the software Marc and Viktor used in their SP speedo's.
- Satwe
Viktor used standard configuration and moved the battery a little more outside to have good balance left and right.
-Vicente
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes, I use ABEC35 bearing.
WHat you mean by the differential of satellites?
- Ali,
Damn, I forget to tell Atsushim you know how it goes at races, always busy busy busy!! I tried a Sanwa small type servo, I think it's 801 type.
- jontang001
Honestly I don't know the Tamiya tyre so I can't help you with any advice.
I can only imagine that Sorex tyre should be better traction.
- biagio23
Good question! If you look closely at my car from ETS you see my electronics are very far inside. I flipped the belts and I move my battery as close to the front belt as possible. Additional weight was on my battery on the inside and outside.
Jilles
Just came back from two weeks of racing, one week of testing for Worlds in Germany and some days ETS racing before that.
- Stormperson
Normally most tyres work best with medium/soft feel of insert. A soft inserts gives more stable traction and prevent the rubber of overheating too much.
A hard inserts is faster but only works good when it is cooler.
- AZ416
Sometimes this happens that the wire comes unsoldered. This is most of the time that the motor gets too hot.
Try 12 AWG wire or solder with some silver.
Ofcourse it can be a faulty speedo but not sure.
- Extrememadness
I used the Serpent type of cleaning gum.
- P.I.M.P
My basic set-up should be always good starting point.
- soft springs, soft oil also helps for lower traction tracks.
- Mark
At this moment we test a lot of configuration with flipped belts, different chassis etc. This is the reason I had two cars at ETS but only was used for the picture. It's too close to the world champs now so not too much details can be revealed now. Don't know about the software Marc and Viktor used in their SP speedo's.
- Satwe
Viktor used standard configuration and moved the battery a little more outside to have good balance left and right.
-Vicente
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes, I use ABEC35 bearing.
WHat you mean by the differential of satellites?
- Ali,
Damn, I forget to tell Atsushim you know how it goes at races, always busy busy busy!! I tried a Sanwa small type servo, I think it's 801 type.
- jontang001
Honestly I don't know the Tamiya tyre so I can't help you with any advice.
I can only imagine that Sorex tyre should be better traction.
- biagio23
Good question! If you look closely at my car from ETS you see my electronics are very far inside. I flipped the belts and I move my battery as close to the front belt as possible. Additional weight was on my battery on the inside and outside.
Jilles
06-02-2010, 03:27 PM
#1112
- P.I.M.P
You find the basic set-up on page nr.3 , post 43 of this thread.
You find the basic set-up on page nr.3 , post 43 of this thread.
06-02-2010, 03:38 PM
#1113
06-02-2010, 05:20 PM
#1114
Tech Rookie
Jills sorry but my English is a little pus. I'm sorry. and that helped me a translator on line.
Thanks for your reply.
About differentials meant if you've tried the new differential. r Sped brand geared and hardness of silicone must be used, and if they are better than the original Tamiya ball.
Thank you for your kindness.
regards
vicente
Spain
Thanks for your reply.
About differentials meant if you've tried the new differential. r Sped brand geared and hardness of silicone must be used, and if they are better than the original Tamiya ball.
Thank you for your kindness.
regards
vicente
Spain
06-02-2010, 05:27 PM
#1115
Jills sorry but my English is a little pus. I'm sorry. and that helped me a translator on line.
Thanks for your reply.
About differentials meant if you've tried the new differential. r Sped brand geared and hardness of silicone must be used, and if they are better than the original Tamiya ball.
Thank you for your kindness.
regards
vicente
Spain
Thanks for your reply.
About differentials meant if you've tried the new differential. r Sped brand geared and hardness of silicone must be used, and if they are better than the original Tamiya ball.
Thank you for your kindness.
regards
vicente
Spain
06-02-2010, 07:06 PM
#1116
thanks jilles, im replacing the lrp esc with a Speed passion pro 2.0 esc so hopefully that will pay off
06-02-2010, 08:58 PM
#1117
Jilles,
Is it true that the 416 is coming out with a new LIPO friendly chassis, if so can you use it for the 416WE too..
Keep us updated, more power.
Is it true that the 416 is coming out with a new LIPO friendly chassis, if so can you use it for the 416WE too..
Keep us updated, more power.
06-03-2010, 12:53 AM
#1119
Cause they want to remain as the no.1 car in the world i quess
06-03-2010, 01:31 AM
#1120
Just like any competitive motorsport, if you stop working then the odds are great that you'll stop winning.
06-03-2010, 12:54 PM
#1122
Tech Rookie
Hi jilles,
how did you manage to flip the belts? Normally there is no space under the gear. Did you modify your chassis or use spool and diff in the upper position by turning the eccentric tappet?
Thanks!
how did you manage to flip the belts? Normally there is no space under the gear. Did you modify your chassis or use spool and diff in the upper position by turning the eccentric tappet?
Thanks!
06-04-2010, 07:38 AM
#1123
Made the original hole bigger/mirrorred the original hole to the other side and dremeled it.
06-05-2010, 05:20 PM
#1124
Suspended
P.M. Sent
06-06-2010, 08:49 AM
#1125
- Vicente
Yes, I tried Spec-R geardiff. It's really not bad but it's difficult to find good balance and diff oil. Really worth a try.
- Cheehtae
Tamiya is always trying to improve the chassis. The last couple of months we have tested many different configurations and found some good solution. I think a few days ago I saw some pics of this chassis which will be available soon. I'm sure the 416WE bulkheads will fit on this chassis.
- Tyrus
When you want to flip the belts with a original 416X, WE chassis you need to cut out the holes under the diff/spool. You also need to flip the centershaft.
This is done very easily with a dremel.
Jilles
Yes, I tried Spec-R geardiff. It's really not bad but it's difficult to find good balance and diff oil. Really worth a try.
- Cheehtae
Tamiya is always trying to improve the chassis. The last couple of months we have tested many different configurations and found some good solution. I think a few days ago I saw some pics of this chassis which will be available soon. I'm sure the 416WE bulkheads will fit on this chassis.
- Tyrus
When you want to flip the belts with a original 416X, WE chassis you need to cut out the holes under the diff/spool. You also need to flip the centershaft.
This is done very easily with a dremel.
Jilles