Hot Bodies Cyclone
08-17-2008, 02:25 PM
Tech Rookie
Some time ago on this thread there was a link to a really good cyclone gear chart for 16t and 18t pulleys. Ive tried to find it but cant, can some one put a link back up. Thanks
08-17-2008, 02:28 PM
Tech Rookie
Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full
08-17-2008, 02:40 PM
You pretty much got it. 4.0 is close to what I use with the lrp 13.5. I used a 91 tooth spur with pinions around mid 50's.
08-17-2008, 02:41 PM
Oh and gearchart.com is good for gearing. They only have the 16 tooth pulleys I think though.
08-17-2008, 02:43 PM
Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full
08-17-2008, 03:03 PM
08-17-2008, 03:07 PM
thats my set up HI , i have a mazda RX8 I have sorex 28R tyre and my probleme is that when i corner i have to break hard to be able to corner without drifting , so it means that i loose time . What i would like to do is to corner faster without drifting but as i said i cant corner faster without drifting.
OK my set up is :
108 spur and 35 pinion
2mm spacer between the upper bulkhead and the inner pivot for front
and 2mm between upper bulkhead and inner pivot for rear
5mm front ride height
5.5mm rear ride height
4mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think)for front
3mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think) for rear
standart suspension 3 holes ,1.1mm each ,40w oil standart spring silver rear gold front
camber 1.5 all around
castor 4
wheelbase is standart
FF 1.5 , FR 2
RF 1.5 , RR 1.5
0.75toe angle front
and standart toe angle rear
4mm ackermann
and i think thats it
and my probleme is that :when i enter the corner , i have to break quite hard to turn without the rear end spinning so it means i loose time . So what i would like to do is to corner faster without the rear end spinning .
thank in advance
OK my set up is :
108 spur and 35 pinion
2mm spacer between the upper bulkhead and the inner pivot for front
and 2mm between upper bulkhead and inner pivot for rear
5mm front ride height
5.5mm rear ride height
4mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think)for front
3mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think) for rear
standart suspension 3 holes ,1.1mm each ,40w oil standart spring silver rear gold front
camber 1.5 all around
castor 4
wheelbase is standart
FF 1.5 , FR 2
RF 1.5 , RR 1.5
0.75toe angle front
and standart toe angle rear
4mm ackermann
and i think thats it
and my probleme is that :when i enter the corner , i have to break quite hard to turn without the rear end spinning so it means i loose time . So what i would like to do is to corner faster without the rear end spinning .
thank in advance
use setup sheet more detail e-mail to me ok ?
& what is your drive style ( on power steering or off power steering )?
Thanks !
08-17-2008, 04:04 PM
Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full
I run a novak 13.5 and gear it 88/46. I run the lrptc speedo and the motor comes off around 140 ish. I run on a long narrow track that has a very long straight and a tight infield. Next week I'm going with an 47t pinion. I also run lipos.
In general let temperature be your guide. 160-170 being the tops. (IMO)
08-17-2008, 04:11 PM
Tech Master
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I run a novak 13.5 and gear it 88/46. I run the lrptc speedo and the motor comes off around 140 ish. I run on a long narrow track that has a very long straight and a tight infield. Next week I'm going with an 47t pinion. I also run lipos.
In general let temperature be your guide. 160-170 being the tops. (IMO)
In general let temperature be your guide. 160-170 being the tops. (IMO)
Shoulda tried that 47 today!
08-17-2008, 04:12 PM
Awesome, you'll have to post those setups up for all to see. I've been running 13.5 for the most part. SIR is waay to small to be running mod without it being a white knuckle experience, so most don't run it. I did do a little 10.5 testing last night, but the setup still needs a little work. It's a little pushy still...
-Korey
-Korey
Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full
08-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Tech Master
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[QUOTE=KHoff7;4748184]I agree, But my lrp motor really needed to be geared abnormally high.[/QUOTE
I found that the LRP 13.5 needs to have timing advanced to produce decent RPM.
If I didn't crank the timing, the motor was a real pooch!!
I found that the LRP 13.5 needs to have timing advanced to produce decent RPM.
If I didn't crank the timing, the motor was a real pooch!!
08-17-2008, 04:32 PM
Tech Rookie
Iam running a LRP 13.5 brushless in my cyclone and im using the LRP sphere TC spec esc. can any one give me a good starting point to setup the esc with I.E punch and brake settings etc
08-17-2008, 04:43 PM
Tech Fanatic
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In order to use bigger spur gears, I was thinking of lifting the stock motor mount by putting 2mm washer/spacers between the chassis and the bottom of the stock motor mount. This will also raise the motor, will there be any concern with affecting the handling because of the motor lifted by 2mm?
The motor is a heavy part of your car so you want it as low as possible. raising it will make your car roll to much in turns. Your front top plate will not sit flat if you raise the motor mount up with 2mm washers.
Yeah jag88 ..........We had fun in mod today, I had a broken power wire from the speedo so I didn't have anything for Brett, I found it after the main.
Last edited by Lazer Guy; 08-17-2008 at 04:55 PM.
08-17-2008, 10:49 PM
I will send you all the detail in ( setup sheet , driving style and track information ) in my email
Thanks alot for your help
08-18-2008, 12:12 AM
I know HB/HPI reps come in here from time to time, my questions about the new TC.
Why plastic front bumper support?
Why black spring collars?
Why revert to 44mm CVA's?
Why steel turnbuckles?
Why steel hingepins/shock shafts?
Why new topdeck but no ATC posts included?
How come the shock bodies are now plastic?
Plastic belt tensioner?
Plastic spring pirches?
Plastic servo mounts?
With all the cost cutting on the car...you'd think it would be like $299 max.
Why plastic front bumper support?
Why black spring collars?
Why revert to 44mm CVA's?
Why steel turnbuckles?
Why steel hingepins/shock shafts?
Why new topdeck but no ATC posts included?
How come the shock bodies are now plastic?
Plastic belt tensioner?
Plastic spring pirches?
Plastic servo mounts?
With all the cost cutting on the car...you'd think it would be like $299 max.