Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone

I have run the Atomic ECS in a 416, and did a little write up about them in some previous posts. They definately take the chatter out of the car, what little the stock one has. Things to look out for, the pins break and they are about 43 and change for length, this is causing broken outdrives in some cases, as the tip of the swing shaft is too close to the end of the outdrive and puts extra pressure on that end. The 46 steel swing shafts are prefered as the sit deeper in the plunge of the outdrive where its in a stronger position. If your using the black outdrive cups the 46 is the way to go, I have run shorter swing shafts but have used the white 415 outdrives which seem to be less brittle, but require some mods for proper clearence between the bulk heads. The broken pins can be replaced with drill bit blanks or hardened rod, I use the drill bits, I buy the exact size bit and cut it off. The other trick here is the setscrew that holds the pins in puts extra pressure on the pin and the wall thickness of the setscrew makes them prone to stripping. My cure for this is to get rid of the setscrews completely and use shrink wrap, like LOSI does to hold the pins in. Since I did this I haven't broke a pin yet. another thing to look out for with the ECS is there is still a clearence issue in the c-hub, something I hadn't noticed before, but in straightline they are okay, but in lock to lock, the ECS shifts just enough to touch the inner hole of the c-hub, so best to check that out as it will cause drag.

Also if you do run the 46 swing shafts but go to a narrow front width setting check to make sure that axles aren't binding in the outdrive cup. Best way to check is to remove your front shocks and while rotating the the cars rear wheels, lift the front suspension arms one at a time through full travel, if the swingshafts are binding you'll feel it throught the rotation.

Originally Posted by Randy Caster

I have done back to back testing between the Speed 6 and LTC-R on my WE. With a mod motor, the LTC-R was more aggressive entering the corners, and helped the car roll more. The Speed 6 was a bit less aggressive, and felt like the car drove flatter.

For mod, I'm going to use the LTC-R since I can use that extra steering to scrub speed on the entrance and then just power through the corner, for 13.5 it will be the Speed 6 to try to keep the speed up through the whole corner.

Originally Posted by CraigM

At the rate uni's wear out I sure as hell wont be getting anything flash for my cars

I think Randy might be onto something with using the LTC-R for spec and the speed 6 for mod. A little while back when I had a play with a 4.5 I couldn't match my 10.5 times on our tight track with the LTC-R, but with 10.5 when I tested the bodies back to back I found the LTC-R was worth about 2 tenths

Originally Posted by Randy Caster

Lol, thanks Adam, it means so much coming from you. Did you get the setup wheels yet?

Originally Posted by abailey21

I did sir, and I thank you, they're really good looking

Originally Posted by ittjv

Hi Randy,
If you don't mind sharing; what springs do you run front/rear at West Coast?
Thanks!

Originally Posted by robk

Hot bodies double joint CVDs will fit the spool if you widen the slot in the plastic cup and also open the cup slightly to accommodate the ball. It's about 10 minutes worth of work, but much less nerve wracking than wondering when your Atomic drive shafts will grenade Trying to keep the Atomics together was not fun.

Originally Posted by Randy Caster

Actually it's the other way around LTC-R for mod, Speed 6 for spec. Barry Baker tried it first and it worked great for him, I gave it a shot and had the same results.

The LTC-R just goes into the corners a lot harder and allows the car to roll more which in my case really frees it up in the hairpins. The Speed 6 stays flatter which keeps the car a bit more planted, but the body itself seems to have more rotation.

Originally Posted by Randy Caster

Actually it's the other way around LTC-R for mod, Speed 6 for spec. Barry Baker tried it first and it worked great for him, I gave it a shot and had the same results.

The LTC-R just goes into the corners a lot harder and allows the car to roll more which in my case really frees it up in the hairpins. The Speed 6 stays flatter which keeps the car a bit more planted, but the body itself seems to have more rotation.