RB Concept Engine Thread..
#2326
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Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 378
Sorry bro...didn't intend to be rude !
Adding oil increases heat...running 30% nitro does not wear an engine any faster, in fact engines should last longer... tuning is also easier on 30%... 30% requires you to run a richer mixture then 20%< which means more lubrication passes thru engine, also because 30% makes more power the needles do not need to be leaned down as far .......All in all I have best results with 30% nitro..... 20% does give better mileage and costs less money tho....
Adding oil increases heat...running 30% nitro does not wear an engine any faster, in fact engines should last longer... tuning is also easier on 30%... 30% requires you to run a richer mixture then 20%< which means more lubrication passes thru engine, also because 30% makes more power the needles do not need to be leaned down as far .......All in all I have best results with 30% nitro..... 20% does give better mileage and costs less money tho....
I'm heading to Arizona in Febuary for some kind of big nitro race. Jim from Fuzion x Motorsports will be there, I'm hoping to learn how to better tune motors from him.
#2327
Chris, you posted in between while I was writing. I was using 30% Sidewinder and couldn't get my motors running right, even blowing a on road RB classico 10. I switched to 20% with a ounce of caster and my temps went down 20-30 degrees and I didn't pop another rod.
I don't dought you, but I've had a different experience with 30%. I've asked for help on this forum because I don't know as much as most. The advice I've gotten helped me, and I've passed it on. If it's wrong and doesn't work for others, bad on me.
I don't dought you, but I've had a different experience with 30%. I've asked for help on this forum because I don't know as much as most. The advice I've gotten helped me, and I've passed it on. If it's wrong and doesn't work for others, bad on me.
I actually run the Sidewinder Purple Strike Team fuel. That is what I have 50% of. The application I read you were running the engine in sounded much more like an extreme on-road situation. If your running at very high sustained RPM's like that your going to need to have your tune PERFECT and yes the extra castor will help you. As for the Nitro... well many onroad guys run the lowest possible Nitro so they can make runtime during a qual. otherwise they run out of fuel trying to run 30%. Also if you are running constant high RPM's you should look into changing your rod every couple of gallons. I know a lot of the on-road guys talk about adding castor to a lot of the newer fuels because they are just too low in castor for their liking at sustained high RPM's. You might get some good advice in the Nitro On-Road Engine section about this stuff as well.
But in General more nitro is going to cool the engine more. Higher Oil content will increase the heat. Your drop in temps was more than just the nitro reduction. Changing fuel changes your tune in many ways as they don't all use the same oils in the same percentages.
#2328
I've tried searching
....what is a good rule of thumb for engine head shimming? The manual states that if you run more than 25% NM to shim 0.1mm, but I'm not sure it's that simple. Can someone help? I am going to be running 30% Byrons with either 9% or 11% lube.
Also, does anyone know what piston/sleeve/con rod I will need once it's time to rebuild?
Thanks guys!!

....what is a good rule of thumb for engine head shimming? The manual states that if you run more than 25% NM to shim 0.1mm, but I'm not sure it's that simple. Can someone help? I am going to be running 30% Byrons with either 9% or 11% lube. Also, does anyone know what piston/sleeve/con rod I will need once it's time to rebuild?
Thanks guys!!


#2329
As for the P/S/R I am not sure where you can get that set. I would think A-Main should have them available soon if they are out right now. Many of RB's engines use the same piston sleeve and rod.
#2330
Honestly you should be just fine to run 30% with the stock engine shimming. You can add the .1mm shim to help the breakin process go a bit easier but there will be no problem pulling it out after breakin is complete. If your going to run more than 30% then you should start adding shims.
As for the P/S/R I am not sure where you can get that set. I would think A-Main should have them available soon if they are out right now. Many of RB's engines use the same piston sleeve and rod.
As for the P/S/R I am not sure where you can get that set. I would think A-Main should have them available soon if they are out right now. Many of RB's engines use the same piston sleeve and rod.
#2332
#2336
For a medium size track and not grooved up I would run the X11 with the 2045 pipe and short 198 header. If you can only get the engine with the new 2087 pipe combo that will work as well. If you already have a 2058 pipe sitting around give that a try as well!!
#2340
The B11 is a lot of engine. Yes it's fast and performs well all around. Unless you have a track with a really long straight I don't think you will notice a big difference. The B11 is going to make more power but that can also get you in more trouble at times too. The X11 feels a lot like the Shark9 with is one of my favorite engines ever!!! Drop a ceramic bearing in the X11 and it screams and gets great economy, but still not quite the power of the B11. So if it's the power your after the B11 would be it.



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