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Old 07-24-2011 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Alderman
Thank you. I really like the way the car drives but I have a problem with it pushing like crazy at low speeds. The track yesterday had two high speed
180s that I could hug the pipe on but the low speed one hurt me alot. Maybe just not driving the car right?
difficult to tune a ride on the net....


Advise to see what your team mates are using first ....
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check the team B4.1 set-ups posted on www.rc10.com



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Old 07-24-2011 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
difficult to tune a ride on the net....


Advise to see what your team mates are using first ....
also
check the team B4.1 set-ups posted on www.rc10.com



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Old 07-25-2011 | 12:02 AM
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Im running Maifields setup from that site, not really much difference between any of them in my opinion. Ive driven a couple 22s and they turn in really well at any speed and can be pushed much harder than I can the 4.1. With the backyard style tracks we run here the Losi's longer chassis keeps it stable in the rough. I managed to take TQ but in the main I needed to push the 4.1 harder but it just wouldn't take it. Gonna order a T4 chassis and cut it down and see how it works out.
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Old 07-25-2011 | 12:22 AM
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Standard Weight for a B4.1

To my understanding it is:

-1oz in front of the tranny (the FT Lipo weight is only .60 ounce)
-1/4 oz in each rear triangle (total 1/2oz)
-1/2 oz next to the receiver to offset weight L/R

For a total of at least 2oz in the car.

Any weight up front is more user preference. I dont know how you can fit 2.5oz in front of the tranny? This is what we have always ran at our local tracks (Competition Hobbies / SRS)
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Old 07-25-2011 | 06:56 AM
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As soon as these are released, the R10pro is going in my B4.1 pronto! Orion lipos and motors are great and this will round out the package.

http://www.redrc.net/2011/07/team-or...rs/#more-45379
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Old 07-25-2011 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by drew840
okay... dumb question but I gotta ask -


What is the proper way to rebuild the shocks for my new b4.1

give me a link or just tell me... how do I set them up with rebound or no rebound... how high do I fill them up

(im using 30wt. front and 25 wt. rear - indoor clay track)

bleeder screw... ?!?! Please help


the other cars on the track look so much smoother than mine



thank you in advance for any reply
No question is dumb its fine.

I would love to type this out but a.e makes a good video heres the link-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hU6B9Z62hw

you dont really have to let them sit but it does make less bleading in the long run. I do sometimes and they feel the same, when you clean the use q tips and a shot of moterspray.
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Old 07-25-2011 | 09:47 AM
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why cant u just us a t4.1 chassis on ur b4.1
why do u have to cut it
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by silentassassin
why cant u just us a t4.1 chassis on ur b4.1
why do u have to cut it
The standard T4.1 chassis is too long and will make the car feel lazy. You want the happy medium between the two by cutting it down. End result is a chassis that is 8mm longer than stock. I'm going to wait to see if a factory chassis will be released before i do a cut chassis.
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:20 AM
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Hey guys I have a quick question. My b4 tends to plow on low to medium speed corners when on the power. I run on a high bite clay track where rear traction isn't an issue. What can I do to make the car rotate, turn better on power? This has been driving me nuts for a couple weeks now and has got to the point where I have to nail the brakes to lock up the rear and whip the back end around and hopefully come out facing the exit as straight as possible. It simply will not turn. On high speed turns, it dialed though.

Shocks are layed down front and rear. 27 1/2 weight oil all around, 25mm ride heigh all around. Short camber links in the front, middle in the rear. I run soft aka rebars on all fours.
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Laloosh
Hey guys I have a quick question. My b4 tends to plow on low to medium speed corners when on the power. I run on a high bite clay track where rear traction isn't an issue. What can I do to make the car rotate, turn better on power? This has been driving me nuts for a couple weeks now and has got to the point where I have to nail the brakes to lock up the rear and whip the back end around and hopefully come out facing the exit as straight as possible. It simply will not turn. On high speed turns, it dialed though.

Shocks are layed down front and rear. 27 1/2 weight oil all around, 25mm ride heigh all around. Short camber links in the front, middle in the rear. I run soft aka rebars on all fours.
My B4.1 felt pretty good at that track on Saturday. I was running Pink Tapers and BK Bars though, which are pretty much ghosted/slicks now. I'm using this setup to the T, with 1 degree of front toe out:

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associa..._LIR201009.pdf
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Asharus
My B4.1 felt pretty good at that track on Saturday. I was running Pink Tapers and BK Bars though, which are pretty much ghosted/slicks now. I'm using this setup to the T, with 1 degree of front toe out:

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associa..._LIR201009.pdf
Im gonna have to check yours out on wednesday. Mine wont turn going up the wall, going over the V turn after wall and comping out onto the main straight. I am losing all my time there. If i nail the brakes on thsoe 3 turns and the stars align right I am able to pull off 15.0-15.2 laps, but its just impossible to repeat over and over.
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Laloosh
Hey guys I have a quick question. My b4 tends to plow on low to medium speed corners when on the power. I run on a high bite clay track where rear traction isn't an issue. What can I do to make the car rotate, turn better on power? This has been driving me nuts for a couple weeks now and has got to the point where I have to nail the brakes to lock up the rear and whip the back end around and hopefully come out facing the exit as straight as possible. It simply will not turn. On high speed turns, it dialed though.

Shocks are layed down front and rear. 27 1/2 weight oil all around, 25mm ride heigh all around. Short camber links in the front, middle in the rear. I run soft aka rebars on all fours.
You need to shorten the rear camber links. You need a higher rear roll center. You could also use a rear sway bar or potentially even both depending on how well it gets set up. Another option is to run long camber links in front. Typically rear motor buggies like a much lower roll center in front than rear. The rear needs more roll stiffness than the front since far more weight is back there than the front.
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fredswain
You need to shorten the rear camber links. You need a higher rear roll center. You could also use a rear sway bar or potentially even both depending on how well it gets set up.
I've kind of been having this problem too. So what are the rear camber links?
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:41 AM
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Old 07-25-2011 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fredswain
You need to shorten the rear camber links. You need a higher rear roll center. You could also use a rear sway bar or potentially even both depending on how well it gets set up. Another option is to run long camber links in front. Typically rear motor buggies like a much lower roll center in front than rear. The rear needs more roll stiffness than the front since far more weight is back there than the front.
Thanks, I will try that out. I am trying to make this thing turn like my b44. Even when off power through a corner it just bites down and turns where my b4 plows, trying to make it powerslide to rotate results in the front wheels getting unloaded and plowing even more. The only solution up untill now was to simply slow down way to much and baby it through the corner.
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