SC10 4x4 Thread
#3991
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Kinda bummed out. I finally got my SC4X and RX8 together and ready for install and I dont think I read anywhere at all that the 540 pinions dont fit the 550 motors... I also need some bigger screws to mount the SC4X in my SC10 4x4 since it doesnt line up with the smaller screws.
Anyone know what size screws im going to need to hold the motor in place? Im guessing I can get any 1/8th pinion to work with the motor as well?
Anyone know what size screws im going to need to hold the motor in place? Im guessing I can get any 1/8th pinion to work with the motor as well?
#3992
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Kinda bummed out. I finally got my SC4X and RX8 together and ready for install and I dont think I read anywhere at all that the 540 pinions dont fit the 550 motors... I also need some bigger screws to mount the SC4X in my SC10 4x4 since it doesnt line up with the smaller screws.
Anyone know what size screws im going to need to hold the motor in place? Im guessing I can get any 1/8th pinion to work with the motor as well?
Anyone know what size screws im going to need to hold the motor in place? Im guessing I can get any 1/8th pinion to work with the motor as well?
#3993
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From: Roswell, GA
Kinda bummed out. I finally got my SC4X and RX8 together and ready for install and I dont think I read anywhere at all that the 540 pinions dont fit the 550 motors... I also need some bigger screws to mount the SC4X in my SC10 4x4 since it doesnt line up with the smaller screws.
Anyone know what size screws im going to need to hold the motor in place? Im guessing I can get any 1/8th pinion to work with the motor as well?
Anyone know what size screws im going to need to hold the motor in place? Im guessing I can get any 1/8th pinion to work with the motor as well?
#3995
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OK guys, ThunderbirdJunkie has some what-might-be-stupid questions for you.
The ballstuds you guys are spacing up...couldn't find it with a search of the thread, so please direct ThunderbirdJunkie to the answer if it has been covered...is it the front or rear?
The rear inside tire seems to lift first, so ThunderbirdJunkie is currently stuffing 6mm of spacers under the front inner ballstuds and 3mm in the rear. Does this seem reasonable? The inner ballstuds also seem to be disagreeing with this 6mm spacing, and ThunderbirdJunkie needs a ballstud with longer thread...is this available? Do you think 3mm on both ends will suffice?
Got the front swaybar set today....going to install that too.
Has anybody considered ditching the receiver box, and stuffing saddle packs (or Losi's shorty 60C/3800 lipo sideways) in the back of the chassis rather than having the left and right segregated?
The ballstuds you guys are spacing up...couldn't find it with a search of the thread, so please direct ThunderbirdJunkie to the answer if it has been covered...is it the front or rear?
The rear inside tire seems to lift first, so ThunderbirdJunkie is currently stuffing 6mm of spacers under the front inner ballstuds and 3mm in the rear. Does this seem reasonable? The inner ballstuds also seem to be disagreeing with this 6mm spacing, and ThunderbirdJunkie needs a ballstud with longer thread...is this available? Do you think 3mm on both ends will suffice?
Got the front swaybar set today....going to install that too.
Has anybody considered ditching the receiver box, and stuffing saddle packs (or Losi's shorty 60C/3800 lipo sideways) in the back of the chassis rather than having the left and right segregated?
#3996
Here's a typical Wed. night at Real/RC in Blue Springs, MO. This A-main had 3 Sc104x4, 2 losi, and 1 durango. SC10's finished 1/2.
http://youtu.be/FgG1LB4UAvo
http://youtu.be/FgG1LB4UAvo
#3997
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,974
From: Norwood, OH...and CCRCR and The OhioRCFactory
As for the people getting defensive about calling swaybars a band-aid for setup...Swaybars should not be crucial to make a truck handle good, period, ITBJHO. ThunderbirdJunkie doesn't need them on his XXX-SCT, his B4, and he is bound and determined to make this truck handle decent without swaybars (or stupidly heavy front diff fluid...50k? WTF? This can't be needed)
The point is the truck is tunable without throwing a bunch of extra crap at it (IE swaybars, mollasses diff fluid up front) and all cars are like that. Not enough rear traction? Don't add weight to the rear, just move what you got as far back as possible. Can't get it far back enough? Change your thought process, IE saddle packs in the rear.
There's a lot in this truck. Sure, swaybars help, but adding them to prevent an inside-rear tire lift is counterproductive to your setup.
#3998
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Here's a typical Wed. night at Real/RC in Blue Springs, MO. This A-main had 3 Sc104x4, 2 losi, and 1 durango. SC10's finished 1/2.
http://youtu.be/FgG1LB4UAvo
http://youtu.be/FgG1LB4UAvo
#4000
#4002
Traction rolling, which begins as picking up the inside rear tire (usually during left corners more than right for ThunderbirdJunkie...he can just about pin it through a right hander with reckless abandon).
This is ideal. Watch videos of the pros, they jump nose down for a reason...it's the fast way to jump.
As for the people getting defensive about calling swaybars a band-aid for setup...Swaybars should not be crucial to make a truck handle good, period, ITBJHO. ThunderbirdJunkie doesn't need them on his XXX-SCT, his B4, and he is bound and determined to make this truck handle decent without swaybars (or stupidly heavy front diff fluid...50k? WTF? This can't be needed)
The point is the truck is tunable without throwing a bunch of extra crap at it (IE swaybars, mollasses diff fluid up front) and all cars are like that. Not enough rear traction? Don't add weight to the rear, just move what you got as far back as possible. Can't get it far back enough? Change your thought process, IE saddle packs in the rear.
There's a lot in this truck. Sure, swaybars help, but adding them to prevent an inside-rear tire lift is counterproductive to your setup.
This is ideal. Watch videos of the pros, they jump nose down for a reason...it's the fast way to jump.
As for the people getting defensive about calling swaybars a band-aid for setup...Swaybars should not be crucial to make a truck handle good, period, ITBJHO. ThunderbirdJunkie doesn't need them on his XXX-SCT, his B4, and he is bound and determined to make this truck handle decent without swaybars (or stupidly heavy front diff fluid...50k? WTF? This can't be needed)
The point is the truck is tunable without throwing a bunch of extra crap at it (IE swaybars, mollasses diff fluid up front) and all cars are like that. Not enough rear traction? Don't add weight to the rear, just move what you got as far back as possible. Can't get it far back enough? Change your thought process, IE saddle packs in the rear.
There's a lot in this truck. Sure, swaybars help, but adding them to prevent an inside-rear tire lift is counterproductive to your setup.
#4003
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,974
From: Norwood, OH...and CCRCR and The OhioRCFactory
I disagree with TBJ, this truck needs sway bars to make it as fast as possible. Sure we can drive it without them & get around the track ok, but with sway bars the truck is plain faster period. That also goes for just about every 4 wheel drive rc vehicle. You will almost always see the fast guys at the track running sway bars. They arn't a band aid, they're a tuning aid.
#4004
As for the people getting defensive about calling swaybars a band-aid for setup...Swaybars should not be crucial to make a truck handle good, period, ITBJHO. ThunderbirdJunkie doesn't need them on his XXX-SCT, his B4, and he is bound and determined to make this truck handle decent without swaybars (or stupidly heavy front diff fluid...50k? WTF? This can't be needed)
The point is the truck is tunable without throwing a bunch of extra crap at it (IE swaybars, mollasses diff fluid up front) and all cars are like that. Not enough rear traction? Don't add weight to the rear, just move what you got as far back as possible. Can't get it far back enough? Change your thought process, IE saddle packs in the rear.
There's a lot in this truck. Sure, swaybars help, but adding them to prevent an inside-rear tire lift is counterproductive to your setup.
+1
first of all, when trying to make the car handle better, just begin with what you have. and get to know the truck and how it handles without upgrades.
I did put on the sways in front and rear, and did the washers under the ballstuds, gave the truck toe-in on the front, made al kinda changes to get some less steer. but now, no washers, sway only in front, no-more toe-in on the front just 5K rear-diff and 7k front diff.
this car is soooooooo good. and we dont need to change that much of the set-up to get it right..
#4005
Thunderbird, do you race in third person? I mean do you beat yourself in a 1 person race? LOL Anyways, sway bars are an integral part of any and all race cars, real and RC. Definitely not a bandaid. There couldn't be a worse statement made about them. My only complaint about this new SC 4x4 I got is that there are no swaybars. For real track stability and power/weight transfer of these vehicles, there is no reason to not have some.



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