SC10 4x4 Thread
#3976
Honestly, no, and ThunderbirdJunkie won't do so. If anything, he's going to put limiters in the rear shocks.
The traction is there, we just have to find it without using setup band-aids like reducing thread engagement in the shock ends and swaybars. Those just mask the issues at hand. Swaybars will be an improvement, and do help what we're trying to fight, but the big thing is they should be used to add to the truck, not correct bad behavior.
ThunderbirdJunkie crashes hard, so this shock end unscrewing thing would not be an ideal move for him.
The traction is there, we just have to find it without using setup band-aids like reducing thread engagement in the shock ends and swaybars. Those just mask the issues at hand. Swaybars will be an improvement, and do help what we're trying to fight, but the big thing is they should be used to add to the truck, not correct bad behavior.
ThunderbirdJunkie crashes hard, so this shock end unscrewing thing would not be an ideal move for him.
#3978
#3979
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Adding sway bars is not a band aid fix IMO. There is no other way to keep it from rolling over on high bite surfaces. I put some 1.5 mm sway bars on mine and it's a lot easier to control now that the whole truck isn't all leaned over in the corner.
#3980
#3981
If you were to reduce droop in the rear (install some clips under the shock pistons) it would do the opposite.
To me, any adjustment that balances just enough rear end grip with just enough push in the front, just means that I can carry more corner speed and reduce the odds that I'm going to end up on my lid.
This is fun, I"m relearning so much stuff, it ain't funny!
#3982
If you were to shim the inner ball studs up, you will lower your trucks roll center, increasing the amount of resistance the chassis will have to roll.
Using both sway bars and roll center adjustments will produce more consistently reproducible results.
#3983
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Not entirely true.
If you were to shim the inner ball studs up, you will lower your trucks roll center, increasing the amount of resistance the chassis will have to roll.
Using both sway bars and roll center adjustments will produce more consistently reproducible results.
If you were to shim the inner ball studs up, you will lower your trucks roll center, increasing the amount of resistance the chassis will have to roll.
Using both sway bars and roll center adjustments will produce more consistently reproducible results.
#3984
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I had the belt jump on me and I ended up having the front pulley tensioner installed the wrong way. You should be able to slide it on and off without removing the tensioner assembly from the front and installing it backwards moves it inboard a millimeter or two. After replacing it (it was kinda chewed up) and flipping it the right way I've had no trouble 30 packs later with the same belt.
Thanks for the input. I'll double check again.
#3986
Go ask a formula 1 driver and/or team crew chief why they're making "band aide" adjustments to their cars. A fraction of a millimeter on their set up can mean the difference between winning and losing.
#3987
None of them are "band aides". Chassis tuning is essential to good track performance. Even the most gifted of drivers are to benefit from knowing good set up practices. Your motor and gearing can only go so far.
Go ask a formula 1 driver and/or team crew chief why they're making "band aide" adjustments to their cars. A fraction of a millimeter on their set up can mean the difference between winning and losing.
Go ask a formula 1 driver and/or team crew chief why they're making "band aide" adjustments to their cars. A fraction of a millimeter on their set up can mean the difference between winning and losing.
#3988
i had the same problem, could have been a few issues. i tightened my tension enough so it didn't do it. but i eventually put the tensionner pulley with the bearing back the right way that the book says to do it, onto the metal bracket.
this allowed the pulley to sit further out from the cover which centred the belt better on the front pulley.
i also put some plumbers tape around the bearing and trimmed it, then put it in the pulley, as i could see it was a little loose in there. Now i dont have any problems.
I can run my tension the way the book says now without the belt jumping.
this allowed the pulley to sit further out from the cover which centred the belt better on the front pulley.
i also put some plumbers tape around the bearing and trimmed it, then put it in the pulley, as i could see it was a little loose in there. Now i dont have any problems.
I can run my tension the way the book says now without the belt jumping.
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It increases suspension arm droop. Increased droop in the rear gives better rough track traction and/or decreases "drive" on corner entry (numbs the front end a bit).
If you were to reduce droop in the rear (install some clips under the shock pistons) it would do the opposite.
If you were to reduce droop in the rear (install some clips under the shock pistons) it would do the opposite.
...I had always thought that increasing rear droop would allow more weight transfer to the front the vehicle under braking or deceleration into a corner which would ultimately reduce rear traction and cause said vehicle to steer/rotate more into the corner. Similarly increasing front droop would allow more weight transfer backward under acceleration out of the corner and take away steering/rotation out of corners.I'd appreciate it if you or someone else in the know could further educate me on droop and elaborate on why increasing rear droop helps this truck with stability into corners.
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Mike
#3990
Farmer_John, I'm not sure I understand this droop stuff
...I had always thought that increasing rear droop would allow more weight transfer to the front the vehicle under braking or deceleration into a corner which would ultimately reduce rear traction and cause said vehicle to steer/rotate more into the corner
...I had always thought that increasing rear droop would allow more weight transfer to the front the vehicle under braking or deceleration into a corner which would ultimately reduce rear traction and cause said vehicle to steer/rotate more into the cornerYes, off power. Sorry, I was referencing on power charactoristics.
Please, if there are holes in my statements, tell me. I"m here to increase my knowledge and this truck has put me back into the set up head game.



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