Pre Heating Engine
#76
....its stupid to argue against the head warmer!......once you use 1, you will have different thoughts
#77
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I see no logic sometime's from people bashing/saying they dont work. Dont think they think it through.. Fair enough if you cant afford one. But we spend a fortune on this hobby anyway. Something that is relatively cheap that saves engine wear long term.. is a added bonus.. specially if your paying £250+ for 1 motor... in general.. I want it to last as long as possible!
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Jewn_Beef- You say-"If you have time".. all you do is pop it on.. and then leave it until your ready to go.. heat gun=Need a wall socket.. or a generator ect..plus then you have to stand around for the 3 mins moving it around the engine.. while the other guy. Is chatting, or checking screws.. while you have less time as you have to stand around moving the heat gun around.. and hoping to get a good enough coverage.. it heats up the whole case.. not just 1 spot..
blacksunshine-If you dont want to prolong your engine life.. and save on some some £ long term then go ahead.. No one is making you get one, but in the long run they make sense.. Enjoying slamming you cold piston up against you liner and lessoning the pinch each cycle.....
blacksunshine-If you dont want to prolong your engine life.. and save on some some £ long term then go ahead.. No one is making you get one, but in the long run they make sense.. Enjoying slamming you cold piston up against you liner and lessoning the pinch each cycle.....

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engines work best off of compression not pinch. if you cant get that threw your head then there is no help for you. this thread is about pre heating engines which is best no doubt. but a heat gun is the best way to do that not a cooling fin condom. saying someone makes no sence when they clearly have a grasp on how things work and telling them to post somewere ealse when they are on topic MAKES NO SENCE
and to say someone doesnt like it cuz they cant afford it is a cheap cop out
and to say someone doesnt like it cuz they cant afford it is a cheap cop out
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Blacksunshine.. Please Take your Keyboard and Throw it away..your posts are based on a lack of understanding of engines and the concept of uniform expansion of engine parts. Have fun running through engines.
Also Speaking of freebies. I laugh at oxymoronic names.
Also Speaking of freebies. I laugh at oxymoronic names.
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engines work best off of compression not pinch. if you cant get that threw your head then there is no help for you. this thread is about pre heating engines which is best no doubt. but a heat gun is the best way to do that not a cooling fin condom. saying someone makes no sence when they clearly have a grasp on how things work and telling them to post somewere ealse when they are on topic MAKES NO SENCE
and to say someone doesnt like it cuz they cant afford it is a cheap cop out
and to say someone doesnt like it cuz they cant afford it is a cheap cop out
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Blacksunshine.. Please Take your Keyboard and Throw it away..your posts are based on a lack of understanding of engines and the concept of universal expansion of engine parts. Have fun running through engines.
Also Speaking of freebies. I laugh at oxymoronic names.
Also Speaking of freebies. I laugh at oxymoronic names.
( Universal expansion of engine parts) Get your head out of your a** Newbie
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Let me guess you run traxxas stuff? .One thing's for sure is all my Novarossi's which is all i own run awesome.
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My bad i didn't mean idiot i ment mis informed.What it come's down to is everybody's got there way and who really know's what works better and what doesn't.F it anyway it's all about racing and winning and having fun.Good luck to all you guy's with your racing.And maybe you'll feel the wrath of my Novarossi's someday on some track
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All those metals expand at different rates and temps. As a matter of fact, the Brass sleeve expands first as it's thermal density is the highest. Next would be the aluminum bits, then the steel crank.
Explain to me why ONLY the Car guys preheat engines? Heli guys place MASSIVE demands on motors and they don't preheat. Giant scale guys with 1200 dollar motors don't preheat...Only Car guys.
Oh and Black Sunshine was White Zombie's second song on his first album.
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So Wouldnt the Entire engine being saturated to about 200 degrees be beneficial Story? having the billet piston, the ABC sleeve and aluminum case,Steel bearing Races, expanded to running temp? Warming my engine make the motor very predictable upon start up.
Does Ringed Play anypart with not needing to warm some heli motors? I dont know.
I still love oxymorons and not a Zombie fan.
Does Ringed Play anypart with not needing to warm some heli motors? I dont know.
I still love oxymorons and not a Zombie fan.
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If you could saturate the entire engine without running it, yes. Too bad a heater will leave the head hot, the block warm, and the crank and conrod cold.
Heat dissipates from a larger concentration to a lessor one. Heat is also transmitted by convection, radiation or conduction. convection and radiation heat the engine with a "bulb" type or heat gun type heater. Conduction by a wrap type. This heat travels from the outside into the motor. Because the sleeve is in contact with the block, it starts to heat after the block. then piston and crank(through the bearings) and finally conrod.
I'm talking ANY Heli motor. I have NEVER seen an air guy preheat ANYTHING but a cup of Irish coffee.
Only car guys preheat engines. Air guys just start them and run them...
Like I do, have done for 20 years and still do. I have running engines from companies not even in business anymore. Very Early ABC engines. Like from 1981.
And to answer your question, any race team interested in instant raw power do NOT preheat engines...IE Any Top Fuel engine. Longer time at the line heating engine=less power is made from that engine. Old bracket racer trick. Stage late to make the other guy gain a few * in engine temp and produce a tiny bit less power.



