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Tech Fanatic
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 814
From: SF Bay Area
Hi James
I'm a UK racer and have found that the most popular type of cars are the T-Bar style, these cars include in no particular order;
Corally SP12X (i drive this)
Cyclone C12
Associated rc12l4 (the new associated is a link car)
CRC T-Force
The Link cars are
CRC GenX
Associated rc12r5 (not yet released)
BMI.
Guys please correct me if i am wrong but T-Bar car work best on low grip carpet tracks.
If you phone Wim from Action Model Centre on 01803 211007 he specializes in 12th scale and has every part for every car you could ever want.
If you are quite new to racing i would probably stay clear of the Corally SP12X as it seems to be quite a fragile car in comparison to the C12 and RC12L4. My opinion is go to your local track and have a chat to the guys there and see which cars they run then i would go for the same, as they will be able to help you out on setup etc.
hope this helps
steve
I'm a UK racer and have found that the most popular type of cars are the T-Bar style, these cars include in no particular order;
Corally SP12X (i drive this)
Cyclone C12
Associated rc12l4 (the new associated is a link car)
CRC T-Force
The Link cars are
CRC GenX
Associated rc12r5 (not yet released)
BMI.
Guys please correct me if i am wrong but T-Bar car work best on low grip carpet tracks.
If you phone Wim from Action Model Centre on 01803 211007 he specializes in 12th scale and has every part for every car you could ever want.
If you are quite new to racing i would probably stay clear of the Corally SP12X as it seems to be quite a fragile car in comparison to the C12 and RC12L4. My opinion is go to your local track and have a chat to the guys there and see which cars they run then i would go for the same, as they will be able to help you out on setup etc.
hope this helps
steve
Tech Champion

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,191
From: Hawaii, USA
The t-bar option is not standard with the kit though and has to be purchased seperately. It is likely the front axles are standard as well or they will have a hard time with bearings for the industry standard front wheels.
BMI for the car, support and service.
I've also been looking for those wheel/hub plates . . . someone said they were once made by Trinity.
The little plates that fit between the bolt head and the wheel center on the rear axle of the Parma wheels . . .
Anyone make these still . . ?
The little plates that fit between the bolt head and the wheel center on the rear axle of the Parma wheels . . .
Anyone make these still . . ?
Ahh, so this is you . . . Layman said they were OD pieces but some others thought Trinity. Sorry I missed you on Tuesday.
Jeff
Jeff
Trinity was the only source for those that I know of. I ordered some of them a while back but the website has changed again and now I can't find them. I am planning on producing them as an OD Racing Product. I'll post up here when that happens. If you see me at All Speed remind me and I'll cut loose a set of the Trinity ones for you 

I loaned Jonathan a car and he won the race. Layman was fast with his OD12 but missed his set up for the main although he was super fast all night. See you next time 
I'll save those wheel washers for you.
Tech Apprentice
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 51
From: Antwerp, Belgium
Hi,
I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?
I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?
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Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 727
From: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Hi,
I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?
I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?
enthusiastic noob reply,
On our short tight medium grip local track guys are running Parma pxxx(edit-purple) fronts and white/grey rears. But they're also shaving/truing the crap out of them. Jack the Gripper is the sauce of choice.
I haven't broken very much in my 1st month of 12th scale (RC12L4) except bodies, a lower control arm, an .063 t-bar and a servo saver.
I have noticed the Associated front springs start to sag after a couple of weeks so I have a bunch of those.
Ballcups for the tie rods seem to enlarge after many hard slams into the wall as do the pivot balls. Not sure if it's pivot balls or control arms, probably a bit of both. Also the bearings supplied with the RC12L4 kit are pretty bad. A "guy" at the track recommended the ceramics from rc4less.com and they are miles better and resonably priced.
I don't know what the Hot Bodies kit comes with but I got the Ti fr axles and screw kit from Lunsford.
I'm now monitoring my diff rings and balls. I was thinking I would break them in with some moly assembly lube from Red Line, get some nice smooth grooves worn in the rings. Seems to be working well but I'm sure many will pooh pooh this idea. That being said the belville washer on the thrust cone seems to be losing some of it's spring making it difficult to adjust.
The stock shock seems to be a weak point so I got the body/cap upgrade from CRC, seems to work very well. Also plenty of CRC front end shims are a must for the noob without the budget for a tire truer/budget to blast new tires within mm's of their usable life.
That's about it for me really, except for a bad rx from my old 2PL, perfect upgrade opportunity . . .
On our short tight medium grip local track guys are running Parma pxxx(edit-purple) fronts and white/grey rears. But they're also shaving/truing the crap out of them. Jack the Gripper is the sauce of choice.
I haven't broken very much in my 1st month of 12th scale (RC12L4) except bodies, a lower control arm, an .063 t-bar and a servo saver.
I have noticed the Associated front springs start to sag after a couple of weeks so I have a bunch of those.
Ballcups for the tie rods seem to enlarge after many hard slams into the wall as do the pivot balls. Not sure if it's pivot balls or control arms, probably a bit of both. Also the bearings supplied with the RC12L4 kit are pretty bad. A "guy" at the track recommended the ceramics from rc4less.com and they are miles better and resonably priced.
I don't know what the Hot Bodies kit comes with but I got the Ti fr axles and screw kit from Lunsford.
I'm now monitoring my diff rings and balls. I was thinking I would break them in with some moly assembly lube from Red Line, get some nice smooth grooves worn in the rings. Seems to be working well but I'm sure many will pooh pooh this idea. That being said the belville washer on the thrust cone seems to be losing some of it's spring making it difficult to adjust.
The stock shock seems to be a weak point so I got the body/cap upgrade from CRC, seems to work very well. Also plenty of CRC front end shims are a must for the noob without the budget for a tire truer/budget to blast new tires within mm's of their usable life.
That's about it for me really, except for a bad rx from my old 2PL, perfect upgrade opportunity . . .
Hi,
I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?
I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?
Last edited by boscoj; 04-11-2008 at 11:11 PM.
Jeff-
I don't think you saw any Parma Pink fronts, they don't make them. I used Magenta fronts last race and they were almost too much but manageable. Grey/Purple works well with over 1/2 sauce on the fronts
I know everyone is pretty hot on the Jacos right now (they are great tires), but with the new compounds from Parma, and the straightest and lightest wheels available, the Parmas are hard to beat!
I don't think you saw any Parma Pink fronts, they don't make them. I used Magenta fronts last race and they were almost too much but manageable. Grey/Purple works well with over 1/2 sauce on the fronts
I know everyone is pretty hot on the Jacos right now (they are great tires), but with the new compounds from Parma, and the straightest and lightest wheels available, the Parmas are hard to beat!
oops, you're right, I meant to say purple . . . I also noticed the Parma rims seem to be more flexible than the CRC's, they crack less, take it from me . . . 

Jeff-
I don't think you saw any Parma Pink fronts, they don't make them. I used Magenta fronts last race and they were almost too much but manageable. Grey/Purple works well with over 1/2 sauce on the fronts
I know everyone is pretty hot on the Jacos right now (they are great tires), but with the new compounds from Parma, and the straightest and lightest wheels available, the Parmas are hard to beat!
I don't think you saw any Parma Pink fronts, they don't make them. I used Magenta fronts last race and they were almost too much but manageable. Grey/Purple works well with over 1/2 sauce on the fronts
I know everyone is pretty hot on the Jacos right now (they are great tires), but with the new compounds from Parma, and the straightest and lightest wheels available, the Parmas are hard to beat!Last edited by boscoj; 04-11-2008 at 11:17 PM.
hey there boscoj, you said youre using the futaba 2PL, but it has a large reciever? you can get a supre small futaba one, thats for the 2PL, and i like it because its smaller than most recievers out there, besides the micro spektrum one.
Thanks man but I already bit the bullet and got a new radio . . .



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