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Old 01-29-2024 | 07:40 AM
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The dead zone is the space between throttle and brake activation where the ESC/servo remains centered. In other words the around center small movement of the throttle control where the ESC/Servo soes not react on.
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Old 01-29-2024 | 08:06 AM
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Is it better and can you drag brake through the radio or is it better to do it through the esc
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Old 01-29-2024 | 08:44 AM
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Is it better and can you drag brake through the radio or is it better to do it through the esc
Always program drag brake through the ESC, if it's an option (some ESCs don't have such option).

Also, when possible, always program an ESC though an app on a phone/tablet or computer. While the hardware programming "boxes" agree good for on-the-fly/at-the-track programming, they don't provide the finer options that software provides. A perfect example would be drag brake - with a "box", you're typically limited to 10% increases/decreases, whereas you'll have 1% increase/decrease from the software.
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Old 01-31-2024 | 09:40 AM
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Looks like RCMart has a preOrder price of $299 on their website. Still baffled by the reference to a higher capacity battery; that may be the internal battery.

It is expected to be officially released on February 22. FlySky NB4+
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Old 01-31-2024 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RCHeliGuy101
Looks like RCMart has a preOrder price of $299 on their website. Still baffled by the reference to a higher capacity battery; that may be the internal battery.

It is expected to be officially released on February 22. FlySky NB4+
Yes, the internal battery of the new radio is a larger capacity.
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Old 01-31-2024 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RCHeliGuy101
Looks like RCMart has a preOrder price of $299 on their website. Still baffled by the reference to a higher capacity battery; that may be the internal battery.

It is expected to be officially released on February 22. FlySky NB4+
seems like a steep increase in cost. I like the usb-c, battery, wheel and screen upgrades but not for $100 more.
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Old 01-31-2024 | 08:59 PM
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Agreed. I just received the NB4 today and was very impressed with the feel. Not sure it would be worth an extra $100.
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Y’all aren’t only paying for these slight upgrades but signing all these pros will drive the costs up some. Imagine the price of a pro upgrade😳. Hook you in with the pricing of the original Noble then the Pro hit with an increase. Now the NB4+ so if theres a NB4+ PRO i’m sure it too will be higher in price. Damn good radio but just like everything on the market they feel the need to price it the same as all the others.
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Old 02-01-2024 | 09:18 PM
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Y’all aren’t only paying for these slight upgrades but signing all these pros will drive the costs up some. Imagine the price of a pro upgrade😳. Hook you in with the pricing of the original Noble then the Pro hit with an increase. Now the NB4+ so if theres a NB4+ PRO i’m sure it too will be higher in price. Damn good radio but just like everything on the market they feel the need to price it the same as all the others.
IMO, at that point, they will lose margin and many will go back to established brands with known customer service. Pricing is their advantage as an entry to the big fellas. Lose that and they had better have a pretty good plan ready to propose. We'll see, fun to watch a newcomer with a solid grip.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by STLNLST
Y’all aren’t only paying for these slight upgrades but signing all these pros will drive the costs up some. Imagine the price of a pro upgrade😳. Hook you in with the pricing of the original Noble then the Pro hit with an increase. Now the NB4+ so if theres a NB4+ PRO i’m sure it too will be higher in price. Damn good radio but just like everything on the market they feel the need to price it the same as all the others.
I was about to jump the fence a few months ago as some of my friends were saying the Pro was so good... but with the rheinard, phends, volkers of the world now on the payroll.... I am making a choice to NOT buy it because I know a major part of the asking price is now going straight to their bank accounts.

I am ok with team drivers of CAR manufacturers providing testing and feedback that will help the CAR become better. We are talking radios here... not the same stuff...

FS had a good shot at taking a good market share with their Prop, based on value for money. I think they blew it...
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Old 02-02-2024 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RCHeliGuy101
IMO, at that point, they will lose margin and many will go back to established brands with known customer service. Pricing is their advantage as an entry to the big fellas. Lose that and they had better have a pretty good plan ready to propose. We'll see, fun to watch a newcomer with a solid grip.
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FS had a good shot at taking a good market share with their Prop, based on value for money. I think they blew it...
Why would they "lose margin"? How did they "blow it"? Both of you are forgetting that the Noble radios are NOT 4Ch radios...they are (with current firmware) 12Ch radios, and are priced WELL below any others with that many channels. The Futaba 10PX costs $800 (or more), and the 7PX is $600. The Sanwa M17 (only 4Ch) is also $600. The KO Propo EX-NEXT (also only 4Ch) is almost $500. The Spektrum SX5 Pro (only 5Ch) w/ 1 Rx is $400. The only other 'competitor' in the same price range, with almost-as-many channels (8Ch) is the Radiolink RC8X, for $20 less ($280)...but, the "Noble" name is more established, especially among racers.

Whether, or not, the NB4+ is "worth it" is pure speculation at this point, as the full spec list hasn't been released. While the increased manufacturing cost for the "brighter screen", and "larger battery" (we're all still assuming that's in reference to the 18650) is probably negligible, the cost of adding the USB-C port is probably costing them a bit more, as the 'cost' involves more than just the cost of the physical parts. To comply with 'standards', the circuitry is more complex, increasing cost. There's also additional R&D in creating said circuitry. Something else to consider is that, even though shipping costs have given up over the past several years, FlySky never increased their prices (unlike almost everyone else)...so, is safe to assume that they have finally decided to recuperate their losses in that area by 'adjusting' pricing to offset their worldwide shipping costs. Put another way, they're just playing "catch up" to all the other manufacturers who increased their prices 2-3 years ago. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that.

Even at $300, the NB4+ is still 1/2 to 1/3 the price of equally-capable radios from most other manufacturers. On top of that, receivers cost considerably less than those other manufacturers. Then, there are the 'advantages' all Noble transmitters have over other brands - the ability to use as a PC controller (not that many use this feature, but it IS there), the ability to 'rotate' the wheel to your preferred position, the far-better-designed menu interface. Finally, there's the advantage so huge, NO one else has this - the removable battery base. This, alone, makes it shine above all other radios, as you can remove the base to recharge the base battery, while continuing to use the transmitter. Then, once the base battery is charged, you reattach it to the radio, and stay charging the internal battery...all without EVER having to stop using the radio...plus, the base battery can be used to charge other devices (cell phone, tablet, wireless headset, etc.

The point is, instead of just looking at it from a "they're increasing the price by $100" perspective, look at it from the point of all the advantages of has, how many channels it supports, the different types of RC vehicles or can be used with (essentially, EVERYTHING except planes, helicopters, or drones), and the "long term cost". What do I mean by "long term cost"? Consider how many vehicles, maximum, you might have bound to the radio. Then, subtract 1 from that figure (since most radios come with 1 receiver). Now, for every radio you'd consider, multiply the remaining number of receivers by the cost of those receivers, and as to that amount the cost of the radio w/ 1 included receiver. In the end, even with the NB4+ costing $100 more than the NB4, I'm willing to bet that the "long term cost" of the NB4+ is, at most, 1/4 the cost of the other radios you'd consider. Futaba receivers tend to be in the $50-100 range. Spektrum receivers cost even more. However, receivers for the Noble radios tabs to be in the $30-45 range, work the most expensive (FGr12B 12Ch Rx) costing less than $60.
That's a HUGE cost-savings compared to the other brands. My guess is, that $100 difference isn't looking at that bad anymore, is it?
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Old 02-02-2024 | 05:22 AM
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The only thing you can be mad about is that in a little bit over 4 years time this is the 3rd model that is published with functional updates. That will be a bummer for all those guys who love to have the latest.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 05:52 AM
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Notably left out of the discussion of competitors in the current radio market is the new Radiomaster MT12. For $130 you get TOTL latency performance equivalent to radios in the $500+ range, 16 channels, excellent build quality (I had a chance to see one in person last weekend. It's a solidly built radio), hall sensors, USB-C charging, the most powerful OS on the market, and even cheaper receivers than the NB4. The only downside is the steep learning curve, but at the price that trade off seems worth it.

The biggest risk with any of the NB4's is what users are currently experiencing with the brand - as FlySky releases newer, more expensive models with new software features, the existing NB4 is being left to stagnate without any meaningful firmware updates. It's plain to see that FlySky is not interested in keeping the original NB4 up to date. You don't have to worry about that with an open source platform.

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Old 02-02-2024 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
I was about to jump the fence a few months ago as some of my friends were saying the Pro was so good... but with the rheinard, phends, volkers of the world now on the payroll.... I am making a choice to NOT buy it because I know a major part of the asking price is now going straight to their bank accounts.

I am ok with team drivers of CAR manufacturers providing testing and feedback that will help the CAR become better. We are talking radios here... not the same stuff...

FS had a good shot at taking a good market share with their Prop, based on value for money. I think they blew it...
The more reason to get the radio now before a possible price increase. It’s a darn good radio. I personally put down the M17 for it. As mentioned by others the interface is far better than the M17 and pricing for receivers are easier on your wallet. Sanwa for a short period had some of the crappiest plastic receiver cases and for the price that shouldn’t be a factor. I don’t know if they resolved that issue or not but many went with the clones at that point. Doesn’t matter as the Flysky receivers have been rock solid. Go ahead and pull the trigger. The pro comes with a case and wireless charging 😱 two receivers, and an extra size steering wheel.

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Old 02-02-2024 | 03:13 PM
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