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Old 06-30-2023 | 08:01 AM
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Are we really talking about spec bearings right now?
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Old 06-30-2023 | 09:06 AM
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Old 06-30-2023 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gwhiz
Are we really talking about spec bearings right now?
why not? Everything else has a spec. Even the screws. That is what started this conversation. Why be okay with changing bearing that require special tools and give a performance advantage but draw the line at Titanium screws? The bearings cost more than the screws so cost is not a factor.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ohiostatechamp
why not? Everything else has a spec. Even the screws. That is what started this conversation. Why be okay with changing bearing that require special tools and give a performance advantage but draw the line at Titanium screws? The bearings cost more than the screws so cost is not a factor.
The spec is "run the motor as it comes out of the tube" and any other BS loophole you find falls under the "spirit" clause. Nobody needs 3 pages of whining...
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Old 06-30-2023 | 10:19 AM
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Maybe negligible at the club day level when there's half a second per lap separating people, but at the top level when there's a tenth separating the top 10 it makes a noticeable difference.

Physics don't work that way. If all you're doing is shifting the powerband while working with the same motor output, there won't even be 1/100 of a second difference.

If someone did get a tenth out of changing the screws, I'd be suspicious that the driver changed out the stator instead.


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Are we really talking about spec bearings right now?

Yup! Let's regulate right down to the type of wheel nut holding the motor. In fact, let's regulate it down to only one person building the chassis, only one chassis allowed (Xpress AT1S, no aftermarket anything, one suspension setup) one person painting only one body, and only one person making the motors and batteries. That'll keep everything in spec and prevent cheating.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 10:26 AM
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And this is why we now race Nitro 1/10th in a parking lot and have a blast doing it. USGT RIP 2023 - Everyone is making good points, but it is clear the fun aspect of it is gone. Nobody wants to race a class that isn't fun. Just sayin.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
And this is why we now race Nitro 1/10th in a parking lot and have a blast doing it. USGT RIP 2023 - Everyone is making good points, but it is clear the fun aspect of it is gone. Nobody wants to race a class that isn't fun. Just sayin.

Well, like I said before. A class dies when people get too rules-happy and kill the fun.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 11:43 AM
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I am so glad I got out of running RC On-Road.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 12:22 PM
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People need to realize that any set of rules weren't made to benefit or penalize them individually. All types of racing have rules to create a perceived level playing field between all competitors at a specific day/event. It is never perfect nor will it ever be perfect. It is just the best compromise that can be made with the current set of variables available to all competitors during that specific event or season. Stop treating it so personal.

There is nothing stopping anyone from racing how they want on their own or locally. If you want to modify existing rules for your local racing because "you know better", go for it. But for events that use USGT rules, the rules are clearly posted.

There aren't too many rules or not enough rules. There are just rules. Just race the rules as they exist the day you are racing and have some fun. Win or lose we are all playing with toy cars. I think the kid in all of us should find that fun enough!
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Old 06-30-2023 | 01:39 PM
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I refuse to be the jackass whisperer....
I refuse to be the jackass whisperer....
I refuse to be the jackass whisperer....

But I do know how to use the ignore function.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
And this is why we now race Nitro 1/10th in a parking lot and have a blast doing it. USGT RIP 2023 - Everyone is making good points, but it is clear the fun aspect of it is gone. Nobody wants to race a class that isn't fun. Just sayin.
What cars are y'all running? I want to get something similar going.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bentouttashape
What cars are y'all running? I want to get something similar going.
It is a blast, very low stress and just a lot of fun as the nitro cars are extremely close in speed. We have a parking lot at the local strip mall that the stores let us run on Sundays,

I have a TG10 MK1 - This is pretty popular along with the Xray NT1 and the Kyosho Nitro Ten. A few guys still run the HPI Nitro RS4 and TC3 nitro that is still competitive.

We run Jaco's that is the only rule as we have a local shop that get them here.

Easily Avg 20 cars and have even had up to 40 on cooler evenings. Heck with all the rules, best of the best for 21.5 TC we found Nitro to be cheaper.

We have raced 8 times so far this year, with 8 different winners so far, it's actually really enjoyable.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabin
Physics don't work that way. If all you're doing is shifting the powerband while working with the same motor output, there won't even be 1/100 of a second difference.

If someone did get a tenth out of changing the screws, I'd be suspicious that the driver changed out the stator instead.
Why are you making that assumption? I don't have the numbers handy but I've seen the power output increase a bit on a dyno with a screw change.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
And this is why we now race Nitro 1/10th in a parking lot and have a blast doing it. USGT RIP 2023 - Everyone is making good points, but it is clear the fun aspect of it is gone. Nobody wants to race a class that isn't fun. Just sayin.
Well I think the class is a lot of fun. Others in our club must agree because it’s the largest class.
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Old 06-30-2023 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
It is a blast, very low stress and just a lot of fun as the nitro cars are extremely close in speed. We have a parking lot at the local strip mall that the stores let us run on Sundays,

I have a TG10 MK1 - This is pretty popular along with the Xray NT1 and the Kyosho Nitro Ten. A few guys still run the HPI Nitro RS4 and TC3 nitro that is still competitive.

We run Jaco's that is the only rule as we have a local shop that get them here.

Easily Avg 20 cars and have even had up to 40 on cooler evenings. Heck with all the rules, best of the best for 21.5 TC we found Nitro to be cheaper.

We have raced 8 times so far this year, with 8 different winners so far, it's actually really enjoyable.
Wow!! Those are some old relics.. TG10 Mk1 was my first nitro car!

We also run nitro in our parking lot track. Kyosho released the V One R recently there couple of those, I run Mugen, couple of old X rays, one NTC3. I picked up a Novarossi Sturm .12 for $105.. great motor for what it is.. it’s the last batch before the closed shop.
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