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Old 09-26-2022 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by abailey21
The minuscule differences between the two and lack of driving ability which is about 99.99% of all RC hobbyists will not gain a track advantage by using a radio with the same features for $500 more. Ryan Harris just did a video on his YT channel about this using a DX5Cagainst his M17 and his lap times were actually better with the $100 radio.
I know first hand cause I was the US Speed Passion guy selling knock off hobbywing trash and was flamed for years on this site by guys just like you if not you personally. Now you and everyone who was a keyboard commando then are trashing this radio now for the exact same reasons WHEN NONE of us are good enough to scientifically tell the differences. '
Why you trashing other people and how do you know what they need or can feel? I have watch Ryan Harris YT videos and he is not good driver and he might be sponsored by Horizon. 11 years I have racing, bashing and crawling with HW stuff.
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Old 09-26-2022 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by abailey21
I see, now it’s a hardware issue not software like a page ago. Make up your mind dude.
Where did I say it was a software issue?
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Old 09-26-2022 | 09:42 PM
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I'm going to weigh-in on this "deadband problem" matter. On one hand, there are a lot of NB4 owners (myself included) who have not experienced any such problem. Does this mean there's no deadband problem? No. There are also a lot of people who have experienced this problem. I say this, not because a "lot" have reported such a problem within this, or any other forum, but because Flysky has stated they are aware of the problem...if Flysky has stated they are 'aware' of the problem, that's proof that a lot of people have contacted Flysky about such a problem. Does that mean every unit has this problem? Again, no.

What do we get from all of this. Yes, SOME units have the problem...but, at the same time, there's no way of knowing how many, or what percentage. There's also no way of (consumers) knowing how many units have been sold. There could be 500 problematic units, or 50,000...there could be 2,000 units manufactured, or 200,000. But...does r truly matter? Does it matter if 1% of the units are problematic, or 50%? Honestly, no.

First, if 50% of the units were problematic, I'm 99.9% certain we'd have read a LOT more reports. As such, I'd say it's probably (very?) safe to say a relatively low percentage of units are affected. Second, as Flysky already said, the 'problem' is so minimal, that most will never even notice. That means the actual deadband is an INCREDIBLY minimal area of the wheel. If top-level racers can compete using the NB4, and not have this 'problem' effect their driving abilities, then it's, essentially, a "non-issue".

What does this all mean? It means, can we just "let it go"...it is what it is, and for the minimal number of units that owners have realized theirs has this 'problem', it's not so bad as to be causing any serious problems in usability. Let's move on to things that truly matter, and get back to enjoying our NB4s. 🤙🏼
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Old 09-27-2022 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Panther6834
I'm going to weigh-in on this "deadband problem" matter. On one hand, there are a lot of NB4 owners (myself included) who have not experienced any such problem. Does this mean there's no deadband problem? No. There are also a lot of people who have experienced this problem. I say this, not because a "lot" have reported such a problem within this, or any other forum, but because Flysky has stated they are aware of the problem...if Flysky has stated they are 'aware' of the problem, that's proof that a lot of people have contacted Flysky about such a problem. Does that mean every unit has this problem? Again, no.

What do we get from all of this. Yes, SOME units have the problem...but, at the same time, there's no way of knowing how many, or what percentage. There's also no way of (consumers) knowing how many units have been sold. There could be 500 problematic units, or 50,000...there could be 2,000 units manufactured, or 200,000. But...does r truly matter? Does it matter if 1% of the units are problematic, or 50%? Honestly, no.

First, if 50% of the units were problematic, I'm 99.9% certain we'd have read a LOT more reports. As such, I'd say it's probably (very?) safe to say a relatively low percentage of units are affected. Second, as Flysky already said, the 'problem' is so minimal, that most will never even notice. That means the actual deadband is an INCREDIBLY minimal area of the wheel. If top-level racers can compete using the NB4, and not have this 'problem' effect their driving abilities, then it's, essentially, a "non-issue".

What does this all mean? It means, can we just "let it go"...it is what it is, and for the minimal number of units that owners have realized theirs has this 'problem', it's not so bad as to be causing any serious problems in usability. Let's move on to things that truly matter, and get back to enjoying our NB4s. 🤙🏼
But then how are users of said radio supposed to argue with people who don't even own the radio on the internet? You're taking all the fun out dad, I'm going to my corner to play with my toy cars!
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Old 09-27-2022 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by abailey21
But then how are users of said radio supposed to argue with people who don't even own the radio on the internet? You're taking all the fun out dad, I'm going to my corner to play with my toy cars!
Is that supposed to be similar to the kids who say, "I don't like [fill in with food item of your choice]", even when they've never tried it? Lol
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Old 09-27-2022 | 10:40 AM
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Is that supposed to be similar to the kids who say, "I don't like [fill in with food item of your choice]", even when they've never tried it? Lol
Yeah, pretty much lol

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Old 09-27-2022 | 02:23 PM
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Glad we can show Gen Z a forum flame war. I thought the art form was dying.
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Old 09-27-2022 | 05:44 PM
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Your momma's so slow her deadzone is as big as the end zone.
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Old 09-29-2022 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RazorRC
Agree with this, the GT-5 isn't bad for its price and probably the cheapest radio I would actually try to race with (and have), but the G7P is way better for the same amount of money. The GT3x radios are garbage.

Hopefully I can get my hands on an RC8X...
I have the rc8x preordered Ill give my thoughts when I get it. we could even set up something if you want to borrow it for a review.
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Old 09-29-2022 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by abailey21
I've wasted plenty on "good" radios. Sold my 7PX-R for this, had the 4PXR before and 3 PX before that. I've run the M17, and owned the M12, 11 and 8. So if none of those were good enough please let me know while I now have saved about $2500 in this hobby by not buying an M17 and the receivers needed to outfit my cars.

The minuscule differences between the two and lack of driving ability which is about 99.99% of all RC hobbyists will not gain a track advantage by using a radio with the same features for $500 more. Ryan Harris just did a video on his YT channel about this using a DX5Cagainst his M17 and his lap times were actually better with the $100 radio.

Most expensive doesn't mean "GOOD" in this hobby like it used to. You and I both were brought up in the get what you pay for era and yeah, 30 years ago it was HUGE. In 2007 when hobbywing was absolute trash and Novak was king not one single racer would ever consider a HW system and all the people on this site today who cried about how HW was chinese knock off crap are ALL running a HW system today. I know first hand cause I was the US Speed Passion guy selling knock off hobbywing trash and was flamed for years on this site by guys just like you if not you personally. Now you and everyone who was a keyboard commando then are trashing this radio now for the exact same reasons WHEN NONE of us are good enough to scientifically tell the differences. Just like all the top level cars, put ANY 2wd buggy in Cavs hand and hes going to wheel you, he's going to wheel you in a Noble radio or with his M17, running a Schumacher or TLR, or his Sworx.

EDIT: 3PK, its been a hot minute since I owned most of those old radios

I agree with you but for some just the feel of the radio makes a difference. I cannot use Spektrum. I had the DX6R used it for 3 days and sold it. Im a huge Futaba Fanboy have had them all over the last 30 years only one I dont have yet is the new 10PX which I may get after I do my Shootout between the 7px, m17, NB4, RC8x

I can drive the same with my $30 GT5 but I dont want to. I like the feel of the other radios and the ease of navigation with the touch screen. M17 would be a sole winner if it was a full touchscreen. the touchpad is annoying but the radio feels great. the 7PX is a bit heavy the 10PX is lighter so that may make it the winner in the end.

should everyone drop $500-$700 on the best TX absolutely not. but Im a firm beliver in buying the best you can afford you will spend less in the end.

and for the record the GT5 is the Best Transmitter that has come with RTR vehicle to date IMO but my issue is the different Protocols Flysky does between TX. if the GT5 and GP7 were all the same as the Noble it would make more sense. as you can get the Noble for yourself and then the cheaper model for kids or spares. but sucks to need different Rx. and the fact the GT5 and GP7 are differnet from each other as well is ridiculous. I have various Futaba receievers that all work with my 7PX, various RX that work with the M17, an many FLysky that only work with the NB4, and a couple seperate FLysky that only work with the GT5.

in the end its all personal preference.
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Old 09-29-2022 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by soulcoma
I have the rc8x preordered Ill give my thoughts when I get it. we could even set up something if you want to borrow it for a review.
Just curious, where did you order from?

Thanks for the offer, I'm supposed to get one of these, we will see.
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Old 10-04-2022 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RazorRC
Just curious, where did you order from?

Thanks for the offer, I'm supposed to get one of these, we will see.

I ordered it direct from Radiolink but it’s coming from aliexpress. Not sure if they are the same or just an affiliate. But the Radiolink website directs you to aliexpress. It’s says it’s shipped and eta is the 20th
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Old 10-26-2022 | 05:58 AM
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Got my Flysky Noble, really good so far. Just made a mistake with setting up Steering Expo as I thought Positive was actually providing negative expo. I should have just looked at the graph closer, but I was in a hurry. I thought I had read it was backwards on this transmitter. Lesson learned. This guys video at 1:45 mark confused the crap out of me when he said the steering expo is different from everything else, made it sound like positive slows the servo down.


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Old 10-26-2022 | 10:48 PM
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Hello guys,
anyone know where to buy the new flysky inr4-gyb gyro receivers??
I have been searching everywhere with no success.
I see that hobbymate has them but they don't ship to Cyprus.
Is there any other place that sells them?
Why is it so difficult to find them?
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Old 11-11-2022 | 01:46 AM
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I received my transmitter 3 days ago. I have tested it only at the VRC Pro, but I did,t feel any kind of dead zone. I will tell more once I try it on the track.
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