X-ray quality bla bla bla... lol yes they use better aluminium and spring steel and charge you plenty for it. Break a part, which you will and you will see what it will cost.

TC chassis is like the motor of the month. Everyone flocks to the brand the fast guys are running.

Our top driver ran the 419x and dominated. He became curious on the MTC1 and suddenly 5 other guys picked one up. As if this week he has moved to Serpent and no one is running the MTC1 now. By next week probably 5 Serpents will show up.

Between the AE, Mugen, X-ray, BD6 and Tamiya.. honestly there is little difference. Two of them have heavy weight pro drivers to help sell their brand. Each one has its gimmick new feature that they sell as a 100% make over when it’s less than 1% change. I for one love the shock and diff detail on the mugen. But it’s not going to make me faster

The only companies that challenge the norm are Serpent and Awesomatix. If you want to speak of quality, design and originality, I would give them the awards, not the self proclaimed luxury brand of RC with its f’ugly orange anodising (sorry don’t like orange)

So if I ever depart from Tamiya.. would be for Awesomatix

As for our blue brand.. Maybe it’s my imagination but somehow since disbanding TRF.. Tamiya seems to be listening more. We have SS BB shock up date, we finally have open ended ball cups, new stabiliser rod ends, aluminium diff housing and pulley.


The XR gave us updates roll bar holders and 3mm motor mount vs 2.6mm..

What is still amiss are updated front C Hubs.. so they are still “Deaf” on that front.

Not asking about what fast driver did what or what car has cool features. And no one cares what the pros drive most of us are not pros and can do nothing with a car like they can.
the question is about a same driver different car lap times. Vs a Tamiya

not sure if anyone has noticed people switching to awesomatix from brand z
go faster same type of deal happens with brand z to xray.

looking for info if anyone tested a 419xr vs a800 , bd9 or t4 19
not who is fast at your club and with what we also don’t need a bunch of so and so went fast and everyone bought
That’s not important we are NOT ALL followers some are yes this isnt about any of that it’s about
people testing cars to see if they are faster then the 419xr with same parameters

I did same driver same electronics 419xr vs tc7.2 and same person driving and same person setting up both cars the 419xr is consistently faster

Some new parts.. many of which I’m totally confused about lol

• 42341 TRF419 Aluminum Rear Uprights – 2 Degree
• 42342 TRF419 Aluminum Rear Uprights – 3 Degree
• 42343 5.8mm Cylinder caps - 5.8mm balls
• 42344 5.8mm Ball connector Nuts (8 pcs)
• 54879 TRF419 Aluminum Front Direct Cups
• 54880 Aluminum Adjustable Suspension Mount (XB)
• 54881 Aluminum Adjustable Suspension Mount (A)
• 54882 Aluminum Adjustable Suspension Mount (E)
• 54883 Aluminum Adjustable Separate Suspension Mount (XB)
• 54884 Aluminum Adjustable Separate Suspension Mount (A)
• 54885 Aluminum Adjustable Separate Suspension Mount (E)
• 54921 Reinforced Swing Shaft Caps – Front/Rear (2pcs.ea)
• 54922 Adjustable Suspension Mounts Bushings

Those I get.. the 2.0 and 3.0 uprights plus all the adjustable suspension arms.. they all seem redundant in writing.

In the old days we had the uprights with the different degrees. Then came the alphabet suspension arm holders and the upright was 0°.

Current trend with competitors are suspension arm holders with inserts to set toe

Now we have adjustable alphabet suspension arm holders.. what’s the adjustment lol.

Then we also have inserts

I'm sure it will all clear up once we have better explanation and more pictures

PS how do you like the new suspension pieces Tom?

The new 5.0 balls that came with 419x were already great. I wonder why the change from 5.0 to 5.8?